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jmlgws Senior Member Canada Joined 7093 days ago 102 posts - 104 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, German, Spanish, Mandarin
| Message 17 of 47 09 November 2006 at 3:38pm | IP Logged |
Ryder,
Would you agree that learning Norwegian is the best way to start learning all three (i.e. Norwegian, Swedish, and Danish), since Norwegian is supposedly "in between" Swedish and Danish? Also, would you by any chance know of good learning materials for Norwegian?
I would almost certainly not tackle Norwegian until after trying German, since German is a much more spoken language. If I try the Scandinavian languages, my biggest concern living here in Toronto is that none of them are spoken that much, and Norwegian is the least spoken of the three; but if Norwegian gets me Swedish and Danish almost for free, it might be the way to go.
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| Ryder Diglot Groupie Norway Joined 6584 days ago 67 posts - 70 votes Speaks: Norwegian, Russian* Studies: English, French
| Message 18 of 47 09 November 2006 at 5:56pm | IP Logged |
Perhaps...It sounds reasonable.
There's a joke saying 'Norwegian is Danish spoken in Swedish'.
On the other hand, people say that Swedish is the easiest of the Scandinavian languages to learn.
Even Swedish grammar is supposed to be easier.
(A proffesor in Swedish told me this)
For those of you interested to read more about the Norwegian language, here's a link from Wikipedia for you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_language
I'm sorry, but I don't know any good learning material for Norwegian language.
And for German...If you have a knowledge of Scandiavian languages, German will come easier for you.
And the other way around.
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| Linguamor Decaglot Senior Member United States Joined 6609 days ago 469 posts - 599 votes Speaks: English*, German, Italian, Spanish, Swedish, Danish, French, Norwegian, Portuguese, Dutch
| Message 19 of 47 10 November 2006 at 1:28pm | IP Logged |
Ryder wrote:
On the other hand, people say that Swedish is the easiest of the Scandinavian languages to learn.
Even Swedish grammar is supposed to be easier.
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Norwegian grammar is more regular and a little simpler than Swedish grammar. Compare Norwegian and Swedish plural formation and verb conjugation.
jmlgws wrote:
Also, would you by any chance know of good learning materials for Norwegian?
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The most recent edition of Teach Yourself Norwegian is quite good, and it is much better that the Teach Yourself courses in Swedish and Danish.
Edited by Linguamor on 10 November 2006 at 1:29pm
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| Linguamor Decaglot Senior Member United States Joined 6609 days ago 469 posts - 599 votes Speaks: English*, German, Italian, Spanish, Swedish, Danish, French, Norwegian, Portuguese, Dutch
| Message 20 of 47 10 November 2006 at 1:39pm | IP Logged |
Ryder wrote:
Grammar isn't just verbs.
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I know that grammar isn't just verbs, but verb conjugation and noun plural formation are things which need to be learned early. These are two areas where I'm aware of things being somewhat more complicated in Swedish than Norwegian, otherwise the grammar seems very similar to me. What areas of grammar would you say are more difficult in Norwegian?
Edited by Linguamor on 10 November 2006 at 1:46pm
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Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6694 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map
| Message 21 of 47 10 November 2006 at 2:32pm | IP Logged |
The biggest problem with Norwegian is that in spite of the attempts to create a common standard somewhere in the middle of the spectrum there are still texts at large in everything from pure Ivar Aasen'ish Nynorsk to quasi-Danish Bokmål. Of cause both Swedish and Danish also have dialects which can diverge quite a lot from the standard, but they seldom intrude into the written language.
Edited by Iversen on 10 November 2006 at 3:09pm
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| Linguamor Decaglot Senior Member United States Joined 6609 days ago 469 posts - 599 votes Speaks: English*, German, Italian, Spanish, Swedish, Danish, French, Norwegian, Portuguese, Dutch
| Message 22 of 47 10 November 2006 at 3:02pm | IP Logged |
I found only two things which made learning Norwegian more difficult than it otherwise would have been. The first was the variation in the spoken language, and the second was the readiness of Norwegians to speak English.
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| Ryder Diglot Groupie Norway Joined 6584 days ago 67 posts - 70 votes Speaks: Norwegian, Russian* Studies: English, French
| Message 23 of 47 10 November 2006 at 7:06pm | IP Logged |
Linguamor wrote:
Ryder wrote:
Grammar isn't just verbs.
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I know that grammar isn't just verbs, but verb conjugation and noun plural formation are things which need to be learned early. These are two areas where I'm aware of things being somewhat more complicated in Swedish than Norwegian, otherwise the grammar seems very similar to me. What areas of grammar would you say are more difficult in Norwegian?
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It wasn't I who said that originally.
In the post where I wrote it, I also pointed it out that it was a professor who had told me that.
Whether he's right or wrong I don't know.
I was just refering to something that has been said by others.
Edited by Ryder on 10 November 2006 at 7:12pm
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| Ryder Diglot Groupie Norway Joined 6584 days ago 67 posts - 70 votes Speaks: Norwegian, Russian* Studies: English, French
| Message 24 of 47 10 November 2006 at 7:08pm | IP Logged |
Linguamor wrote:
I found only two things which made learning Norwegian more difficult than it otherwise would have been. The first was the variation in the spoken language, and the second was the readiness of Norwegians to speak English.
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He, he. Yes, we speak very different than we write.
But that is the case with almost every language, isn't it? English is sure not spoken like it's written.
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