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mcjon77
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10 April 2007 at 11:23am | IP Logged 
The first language I studied with any level of commitment was French. I didn't get very far, but I still love the language.

The only reason I stopped studying French was that when I started with Spanish I found myself inserting French words where there should be Spanish words. This problem was exacerbated by the fact that Pimsleur French and Pimsleur Spanish, as well as the vocabulearn and learn in your car series, use almost exactly the same script for both languagess. Since I do a fair amount of traveling to Latin America, I decided to focus on Spanish.

But after 6 months, French keeps calling me. I am going to start studying an additional foreign language while studying Spanish and I SHOULD pick German or Arabic, since they are so different from Spanish that I will not be confused. However, I REALLY want to go back to French.

So what are some strategies for studying two similar foreign languages at the same time? What would you guys do in this situation?
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awake
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10 April 2007 at 12:46pm | IP Logged 
You need to build a firewall around your languages so that they don't creep into one another. I'd try keeping them apart as much as possible. It might be useful if you could establish a set schedule (at least at first), say Spanish early and French late at night.

One thing you want to be wary of is cementing bad ussage through the practice of bad usage. Pick one of your languages and focus only on input. For example, Every night before bed watch one of the French in Action Videos. Don't try to speak, just try to absorb. Go through the series 3 or 4 times over the next several months while in the mornings you focus on making your Spanish skills more solid. When your Spanish is at a higher level, start working on being able to output (speaking, writing, etc...) the french as well (through a program like FSI or something maybe).

You'll probably get lots of other suggestions too, just pick one that you think might work well for you and try it. after a few weeks if you're unhappy with the results try something else.
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reineke
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10 April 2007 at 7:51pm | IP Logged 
I'd wait a little until your Spanish is stronger. Interference will happen, but it won't be much of a concern. It's possible, though. A lot depends on how much work you're willing to put into it.
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hernanday
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17 June 2012 at 12:40am | IP Logged 
mcjon77 wrote:
The first language I studied with any level of commitment was French.
I didn't get very far, but I still love the language.

The only reason I stopped studying French was that when I started with Spanish I found
myself inserting French words where there should be Spanish words. This problem was
exacerbated by the fact that Pimsleur French and Pimsleur Spanish, as well as the
vocabulearn and learn in your car series, use almost exactly the same script for both
languagess. Since I do a fair amount of traveling to Latin America, I decided to focus
on Spanish.

But after 6 months, French keeps calling me. I am going to start studying an
additional foreign language while studying Spanish and I SHOULD pick German or Arabic,
since they are so different from Spanish that I will not be confused. However, I
REALLY want to go back to French.

So what are some strategies for studying two similar foreign languages at the same
time? What would you guys do in this situation?


Yes I learned Spanish to an intermediate level first then stopped as life got busy.
Then I learned French to the point of understanding conversation on TV and started to
pick up Spanish again recently, and now I find myself pronouncing Spanish words with
French accents. Ie. I see a Spanish word and want to not want to pronounce the ending.
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Cavesa
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17 June 2012 at 2:54am | IP Logged 
The cure to all the interference is becoming good at both the languages. The
interferences appear in the gaps in the language you are trying to use at the moment.
As you'll progress, you will need to borrow pieces of the other language less and less.

If you really want to learn French and Spanish, it is possible and it might not do much
good to start something different instead of French just to avoid it. But it won't be
without any trouble.

If you can, wait with French until you are at least intermediate at Spanish, so you
will be fighting different obstacles in each and as you will be more comfortable with
Spanish, it will be harder for French to invade. And, as you will know a lot of what
you learn already, it will become more of an advantage than inconvenience.

When I started Spanish, I was high intermediate in French. It gave me a lot of
advantage. At first, it was difficult to try to speak in Spanish, French came
automatically, but my brain finally got used to not switch. It just needed some time.
Overall, the combination French-Spanish has been a very pleasant experience for me (so
much that I seriously consider adding basics of Italian to the mess :-D ).

Try to separate them in your methods. I think doing Pimsleur in both or Vocabulearn in
both at the same time is not too wise, I like to, for exemple, do some textbook work in
one and watch a movie in the other (And after my last attempt, I will finish German
Assimil before starting Swedish one.). This is one of the main advantages of being more
advanced in one of the two- you have much more freedom of combinations.

Listen a lot. Not just for the usual reasons. Several people have noticed and posted
somewhere, and I agree, that the sound of the language can create a solid and natural
border. While French and Spanish are very similar in writing, the sound is very
different and uninterchangeable (no idea whether this word really exists, I hope you
see what I mean). (Funny thing-to some people, French and German sound more similar
than French and Spanish.)

Sorry about my grammar and style, it is getting late...


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