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| CheeseInsider Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5114 days ago 193 posts - 238 votes  Speaks: English*, Mandarin* Studies: French, German | Message 9 of 37 16 November 2010 at 9:15pm | IP Logged | |||||
Ahh okay, I didn't think about it that way... I think you are right :) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Lucky Charms Diglot Senior Member Japan lapacifica.net Joined 6941 days ago 752 posts - 1711 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: German, Spanish | Message 10 of 37 17 November 2010 at 4:20am | IP Logged | |||||
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If I'm learning a language with linguistic features that are very different from those of English (whether they be phonetic, phonological, syntactic, whatever), I feel excited to understand this new system, and in fact it might be the greatest pull toward the language. I feel like it gives me insight into both the various possibilities as well as the universal principles of the human mind. It makes me think, 'so this is what we're capable of!' For this reason, even memorizing the oft-dreaded cases and genders is fun for me. Isn't it fascinating to think there are billions of people in the history of the world - all born the same as you and me - who learned to organize their thoughts this way, until it became the only natural lens through which to see the world for them?
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| The Real CZ Senior Member United States Joined 5641 days ago 1069 posts - 1495 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 11 of 37 17 November 2010 at 4:45am | IP Logged | |||||
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I don't like it or hate it, but I find it necessary, as it speeds up the process in learning the basic sentence forms. But I also need examples to go with the grammar rule, as that usually helps me just as much, if not more, than the grammar rule itself.
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| delta910 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5867 days ago 267 posts - 313 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Dutch, German | Message 12 of 37 17 November 2010 at 5:56am | IP Logged | |||||
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I can't say I hate learning grammar but I chose to do it differently. Of course, everyone likes to learn it in their own
way. I just like to get a lot of the language in me and have done a lot of reading prior to my looking at grammar.To me, after I do this, I just find that the grammar makes more sense and is easier to grasp over if i just started learning the grammar straight out prior to not having learned anything in the language (i.e. words and phrases). To me really, it doesn't matter in what way one learns the grammar of the language and at what point as long one is doing something that helps them learn the grammar. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Ocius Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5582 days ago 48 posts - 77 votes Speaks: English*, German, Ancient Greek Studies: French, Latin, Sanskrit | Message 13 of 37 17 November 2010 at 6:10am | IP Logged | |||||
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I love learning the grammar in detail for complex languages (Ancient Greek, Latin, Sanskrit, etc.), but the more simple stuff (from an English speaking perspective) I don't find so interesting. French, for example, I typically just read through a broad overview of how something is used (i.e., difference in usage between subjunctive and conditional). Perhaps its just the fascination which comes from studying languages far removed (grammatically) from my mother tongue.
Though in any case, I find learning conjugation charts somewhat fun. Though most people find it tedious, I feel that doing so provides me with a "measurable" sense of progress at the beginning of a language, even if ultimately I'll have to give up the rigid structure of mental-look-up to be able to read (my primary concern) or speak fluently. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| skchi Groupie United States Joined 5737 days ago 57 posts - 86 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French | Message 14 of 37 17 November 2010 at 8:47pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I like learning grammar when it's consistent. I hate learning random exceptions to grammar rules.
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| CheeseInsider Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5114 days ago 193 posts - 238 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin* Studies: French, German | Message 15 of 37 17 November 2010 at 9:47pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Great replies everyone :) And thanks for them. So for those of you that like learning languages with a very different grammar, would you avoid learning languages with a grammar similar to the ones you already know? I wouldn't, otherwise I wouldn't be learning French. Or Cantonese for that matter. But my next language will (hopefully) be very different :) Edited by CheeseInsider on 17 November 2010 at 9:48pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Lucky Charms Diglot Senior Member Japan lapacifica.net Joined 6941 days ago 752 posts - 1711 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: German, Spanish | Message 16 of 37 18 November 2010 at 1:48am | IP Logged | |||||
I wouldn't avoid them at all. I might be interested in them for other reasons than grammar (cultural, family or friends from the country, the sound, economic usefulness, etc.) But I just might get less of that thrill or high when studying the grammar than I would for a language that opened new intellectual frontiers for me. On the other hand, I probably won't be studying anything like Finnish/Icelandic/Hungarian/Navajo JUST for the unusual grammar, when I have no other motivation. A new grammar system is just one factor of many when choosing a language. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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