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mka
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 Message 1 of 15
26 November 2010 at 11:27pm | IP Logged 
I plan to travel to different countries, learning the languages as I go. The basic plan is to learn the basics of each language before arriving, then increase fluency in the language while I'm there, as well as start the basics of the next language. For example, I'm intermediate in Spanish now, and I go to Argentina for a year. My Spanish improves while I'm there, and I begin French studies. After a year or so in Argentina, I go to France for 1-2 years, develop proficiency in French, and start studing Italian. Then onward to Italy, etc.
I'm trying to construct a mobile language lab, and here's what I thinking at the moment:
* A notebook computer such as an eeepc, running WinXP (since Vista and 7 have a problem with real-time audio.) All audio, video and manuals will reside on this notebooks.
* Goldwave, to play back and repeat the audio disks.
* An ipod, to listen to audios as I walk around or relax.
* A Kindle for language manuals. Of course the notebook will also handle the manuals.
* Appropriate language course with audio, perhaps video.

This is more equipment than I'd like to carry, but it's better than carrying around books and CDs, etc.

Anyone else tried this or has an opinion on a mobile language lab. Volume and weight are always an issue when traveling. Thanks.
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oceankyle
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 Message 2 of 15
27 November 2010 at 12:28am | IP Logged 
I think a smart phone can do most all of that, and you are less likely to get robbed. Not
optimal at any of the above things but when traveling it pays to be light and not have a
ton of valuable stuff on you.
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Gusutafu
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 Message 3 of 15
27 November 2010 at 12:32am | IP Logged 
I think you don't even need a full laptop. Nowadays I make do with a smartphone, though reading long texts is rather painful. Perhaps a tablet computer?
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jimbo
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 Message 4 of 15
27 November 2010 at 12:35am | IP Logged 
I love the title of this thread.

I think you could do everything on an iPod Touch. Amazing. I used to lug a pile of dictionaries around. No
need for that anymore.
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mka
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 Message 5 of 15
27 November 2010 at 9:21pm | IP Logged 
Thanks for your input.

I don't think a smartphone will provide sufficient control over audio playback and repetition. As an example, as I go through the lessons in the old Assimil book, I listen to the audio in my headphones and repeat every phrase or sentence. I want to repeat into a microphone and immediately hear my voice in the headphones (this is the problem with Windows Vista and 7.) My theory is that what I hear in the headphones is closer to what others will hear as I talk. If I have any questions about the pronunciation, I may replay the audio several times, repeating until I'm satisfied that I pronounced it correctly.

How would I do that on a smartphone? Could I do that on an Ipod Touch?

Of course the other uses of the notebook are to internet surf, maintain my websites, program in "C" on occasion, etc.
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Sprachprofi
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27 November 2010 at 9:37pm | IP Logged 
I wouldn't get a smartphone instead of a laptop. However, I'd recommend getting an iPhone
or at least an iPod Touch instead of just any iPod. The reason is that you can use Anki
mobile then for vocabulary study, and this one app has made a HUGE difference in how many
words I study per day. I always use it in 'dead time' now, for example while on the
subway, and I imagine that if you're traveling, you will want to minimize the amount of
time you're tied to the apartment.


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jazzboy.bebop
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27 November 2010 at 10:39pm | IP Logged 
Sprachprofi wrote:
I wouldn't get a smartphone instead of a laptop. However, I'd
recommend getting an iPhone
or at least an iPod Touch instead of just any iPod. The reason is that you can use Anki
mobile then for vocabulary study, and this one app has made a HUGE difference in how
many
words I study per day. I always use it in 'dead time' now, for example while on the
subway, and I imagine that if you're traveling, you will want to minimize the amount of
time you're tied to the apartment.



Indeed, my iPod touch has become very useful for eliminating dead time, been enjoying
the IntenseGerman and IntenseEsperanto apps you helped make too. Btw, did you see my
post about the possible creation of an app using the Intense(insert language) format
with Quizlet.com linkup to allow user-created lists?
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Gusutafu
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 Message 8 of 15
27 November 2010 at 10:50pm | IP Logged 
I also got Anki mobile, but I have ended up using Pleco's built-in flashcards instead, since I never managed to get sound to work on the phone. It works on the laptop and even Anki Online, but for some reason won't migrate properly. It's a pity, because I prepared an anki deck will all individual phrases, with sound, from Assimil Chinese, as well as Assimil Polish.

To the poster, I don't know if there is a app that will bring together playback and recording/playback of your voice. There are of course apps that will do these things individually, and they can be run simultaneously, but you would still have to switch apps. If you use the headset though, you can pause/play and jump back and forward in the tracklist by pushing the clicker once, twice or thrice, without having the ipod app showing. In that way, you can visually be in your voice recording and playback app all the time.

I just tried it and it works. There are only two limitations to this:

*Playback pauses when you start recording, at least with my recording app (there are dozens)
*You can only jump between tracks with the clicker, not rewind or fast forward within tracks.


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