Desertbandit Groupie Netherlands Joined 5092 days ago 80 posts - 104 votes Speaks: Arabic (Iraqi)*
| Message 1 of 20 08 December 2010 at 12:11am | IP Logged |
Everywhere I look people advice me to use remember the kanji for Japamese Kanji studies.
I do not want to use Remember the Kanji , I find the stories stupid and it just doesn't work for me.
But my problem is ...I can't think of any alternative books or techniques to learn Kanji .
So people who did NOT use remember the Kanji how did you do it?
I thank you for your time and attention .
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Gusutafu Senior Member Sweden Joined 5513 days ago 655 posts - 1039 votes Speaks: Swedish*
| Message 2 of 20 08 December 2010 at 12:17am | IP Logged |
The stories are stupid, but use it for the first hundred and then make your own stories!
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carlonove Senior Member United States Joined 5978 days ago 145 posts - 253 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian
| Message 3 of 20 08 December 2010 at 1:35am | IP Logged |
The strength of RTK is more in the order the kanji are presented rather than the stories, some of them are pretty horrible. Reviewing the Kanji is a site based around RTK, where you can view stories invented by other people, a lot of which are far more entertaining and effective than Heisig's.
There is also a hallowed book call "2001 Kanji" written by a priest name De Roo in the 1970's. People rave about its clarity and compactness in online reviews, and the stories are allegedly based on the historical development/roots of each character. Unfortunately the book is out of print and nearly impossible to find--hopefully the copyright will run out soon and someone can scan and publish it online.
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Leurre Bilingual Pentaglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5417 days ago 219 posts - 372 votes Speaks: French*, English*, Korean, Haitian Creole, SpanishC2 Studies: Japanese
| Message 4 of 20 08 December 2010 at 3:25am | IP Logged |
You could, you know, not try to remember every single one of them in one go, and deal
with each Kanji as it comes up in your studies
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newyorkeric Diglot Moderator Singapore Joined 6371 days ago 1598 posts - 2174 votes Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Mandarin, Malay Personal Language Map
| Message 5 of 20 08 December 2010 at 3:43am | IP Logged |
I really like Henshall's "A Guide to Remembering Japanese Characters." He includes mnemonics for all the official Kanji, a fairly detailed etymology of each character, the pronunciation, and combinations.
Edited by newyorkeric on 08 December 2010 at 3:44am
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jimbo Tetraglot Senior Member Canada Joined 6286 days ago 469 posts - 642 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin, Korean, French Studies: Japanese, Latin
| Message 6 of 20 08 December 2010 at 5:03am | IP Logged |
Just study with a textbook with a lot of Kanji and you'll gradually pick them up.
If you'd like something more systematic, there are a ton of apps on the iPod, etc. They'll help with recognition.
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Lianne Senior Member Canada thetoweringpile.blog Joined 5107 days ago 284 posts - 410 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Esperanto, Toki Pona, German, French
| Message 7 of 20 08 December 2010 at 5:09am | IP Logged |
The site kanjidamage.com is pretty cool if you don't mind something a bit unconventional. I haven't tried to learn the kanji so I can't say anything about its effectiveness, but from what I've seen it looks really good. I'll be trying it when I get to Japanese.
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Gusutafu Senior Member Sweden Joined 5513 days ago 655 posts - 1039 votes Speaks: Swedish*
| Message 8 of 20 08 December 2010 at 9:38am | IP Logged |
This book is absolutely lovely, and in a very handy format:
http://www.amazon.com/Essential-Kanji-Characters-Systematica lly-Reference/dp/0834802228
I second the statement that the point about RTK is the ordering, so you can either download a deck for RTK for Anki (free and legal), or get Essential Kanji, which is almost free.
But you should start doing extensive reading as soon as possible, even if you only understand half of it, to get to see the kanji in context. ("Kanji in context" is also the title of a pretty good Japanese book on Kanji, written in English.)
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