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| arturs Triglot Senior Member Latvia Joined 5263 days ago 278 posts - 408 votes  Speaks: Latvian*, Russian, English | Message 9 of 52 12 December 2010 at 9:42am | IP Logged | ||
I know this situation. I learned English that way. I had this Cartoon Network channel and I watched that stuff 24/7 - of course I didn't understand at the beginning but at one point I started to understand something and when they started to teach us English at school (at age of 8, if I remember correctly, I was the only one who could construct a simple question). 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Lucas Pentaglot Groupie Switzerland Joined 5159 days ago 85 posts - 130 votes Speaks: French*, English, German, Italian, Russian Studies: Mandarin | Message 10 of 52 12 December 2010 at 10:03am | IP Logged | ||
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You can't compare the two situations.
You "started to understand something" and then learned it at school. This is initiation, you can't say you learned English that way. My ex-student is 18 years old and is actually able to SPEAK German (not well of course, but he speaks), even if nobody spoke German around him and has never read a German sentence. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6667 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 11 of 52 12 December 2010 at 10:14am | IP Logged | ||
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Yes, you can learn quite a lot.
It takes more or less time depending of the language.If you are Spanish watching català, french or Italian, it's easier. It depends on what you do, if you have subtitles in your own native language or not, if you try to repeat aloud and so on. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Splog Diglot Senior Member Czech Republic anthonylauder.c Joined 5661 days ago 1062 posts - 3263 votes Speaks: English*, Czech Studies: Mandarin | Message 12 of 52 12 December 2010 at 10:53am | IP Logged | ||
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In short, this is asking if the "TV Method" works. There are some on here who have
already committed to it - watching hundreds of hours of movies in their target language, with no other study whatsoever. My distant observation has been that their progress seems slow compared to other approaches. Edited by Splog on 12 December 2010 at 10:53am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| doviende Diglot Senior Member Canada languagefixatio Joined 5978 days ago 533 posts - 1245 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Hindi, Swedish, Portuguese | Message 13 of 52 12 December 2010 at 11:34am | IP Logged | ||
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Whether it's slower or not is not the question. The question is whether you'd understand the language at the end, and I think the answer can be "yes". I have no doubt that some people would be able to come out of the situation without having learned much, because of their lack of curiosity and attentiveness (similar to those who live in a country for decades and still barely speak the language), but with the right mindset you can actually learn a lot from TV.
I find that one of the quickest ways to learn something from TV is to watch sports. I'm not really a big sports fan in general, but what happens on a TV sports broadcast is some set of actions get repeated over and over, while a commentator describes precisely what's going on. You can see what's happening in front of you, and someone is describing it for you. In contrast, a lot of TV dramas are harder to learn from initially, because they all consist of two or three people in a room talking to each other. You usually have to know a lot of background of the characters in order to figure out what they're talking about. In the long-term, though, this can be quite educational because the overall context will be continued through the entire series. For instance, if you know a little bit about the star trek universe, then you can predict a lot of what's going on and what's going to happen in an upcoming scene. I learned quite a lot of German from watching German-dubbed star trek, despite not understanding much of the German when I started. Anyway, I think there's not much room to argue about whether this method is possible or not, because we can already point to successful examples of people doing it as a child or as an adult (see also: Keith's blog about his TV Method for Chinese. It's yet another form of exposure to the language, and there are also strategies for making it more comprehensible as a beginner. You may feel that it takes more or less time than other methods, or that it should or should not be recommended to beginners, but the evidence clearly shows that it's possible. Edited by doviende on 12 December 2010 at 11:36am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| LatinoBoy84 Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5567 days ago 443 posts - 603 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish*, French Studies: Russian, Portuguese, Latvian | Message 14 of 52 12 December 2010 at 4:20pm | IP Logged | ||
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http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/
Yes, IF you put in the effort... 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| magictom123 Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5585 days ago 272 posts - 365 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, French | Message 15 of 52 12 December 2010 at 4:50pm | IP Logged | ||
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Was this sentence imposed for crimes against grammar?
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| Aineko Triglot Senior Member New Zealand Joined 5440 days ago 238 posts - 442 votes Speaks: Serbian*, EnglishC2, Spanish Studies: Russian, Arabic (Written), Mandarin | Message 16 of 52 12 December 2010 at 8:09pm | IP Logged | ||
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All of the 'learned from TV' cases I know (and I know quite few both for English and
Spanish, since foreign TV in Serbia is mostly subtitled) have had some reference points here and there, like seeing something in English with subtitles, seeing something with bad dubbing (when you have one voice over the other) etc. That is still very different from having no clue about the language and having no reference points at all. You might figure out very simple things like 'Give me', "go' etc., but I can't see how would you learn complex construction without any interactions or references. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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