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| Liface Triglot Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/Lif Joined 5850 days ago 150 posts - 237 votes  Speaks: English*, German, Spanish Studies: Dutch, French | Message 17 of 52 12 December 2010 at 8:25pm | IP Logged | ||
All Japanese is not the same situation, because it involves interaction and translation. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6667 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 18 of 52 12 December 2010 at 8:55pm | IP Logged | ||
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As far as I know, the "TV method" comes from people trying to adapt the Automatic Language Growth, or ALG, to self language learning:
http://www.algworld.com/ Here, David Long explains the ALG method very well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Vg2Eh2LOSE They claim that you need around 800 hours listening, like a 2 years old child, before you start to speak. Then you start reading, then writing and grammar. TV has visuals and you somehow interact with it. After more than 700 hours watching TV, you can start with Assimil, Pimsleur,...for example. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Aineko Triglot Senior Member New Zealand Joined 5440 days ago 238 posts - 442 votes Speaks: Serbian*, EnglishC2, Spanish Studies: Russian, Arabic (Written), Mandarin | Message 19 of 52 12 December 2010 at 9:28pm | IP Logged | ||
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I don't know how you interact with the TV :), but if we are talking about children, we
have to have in mind that they are certainly not passive listeners. Children get corrected all the time and ask questions and get answers (this is the kind of interaction I have in mind). This is not the case with the imprisoned guy from the first post. Maybe after 800h of passive listening you can get to the level of a two year old (uttering few words and two-words sentences), but I doubt you would get further than that if you don't start interacting or use some references. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6667 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 20 of 52 12 December 2010 at 9:58pm | IP Logged | ||
The first post is much more extreme. He writes about watching TV 4 hours a day every day for 5 years. This is 7,300 hours. I think the imprisoned man will understand almost 100%. Regarding speaking skills, I don't think he will be able to produce anything, but if he starts speaking, he will get a native level fast. It's my opinion. Or maybe I am wrong. Maybe if he starts talking to himself in Russian after listening a few hundreds of hours, he'll get better and better results. If he doesn't listen his native language anymore, but he only listens Russian, he will start thinking in Russian and maybe talking aloud to himself in Russian...I don't know. Edited by slucido on 12 December 2010 at 10:05pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Aineko Triglot Senior Member New Zealand Joined 5440 days ago 238 posts - 442 votes Speaks: Serbian*, EnglishC2, Spanish Studies: Russian, Arabic (Written), Mandarin | Message 21 of 52 12 December 2010 at 11:57pm | IP Logged | ||
it is also more extreme, compared to a child situation, in terms of not having any interaction whatsoever. My opinion is that passive listening can only get you so far, but for learning more complex and abstract concept, you do need some kind of a feedback. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| FrostBlast Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5091 days ago 168 posts - 254 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: Spanish, Russian, Swedish, Icelandic | Message 22 of 52 13 December 2010 at 3:18am | IP Logged | ||
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If Antonio Banderas was able to learn Old Norse in less than 2 hours, then I'd say it's possible, yes. Edited by FrostBlast on 13 December 2010 at 3:21am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| egill Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5688 days ago 418 posts - 791 votes Speaks: Mandarin, English* Studies: German, Spanish, Dutch | Message 23 of 52 13 December 2010 at 8:08am | IP Logged | ||
It's even more impressive since, if I recall correctly, they spoke modern Danish, Norwegian, and Swedish, haha. Edited by egill on 13 December 2010 at 8:09am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6667 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 24 of 52 13 December 2010 at 9:11am | IP Logged | ||
I don't think this is passive listening, because you are paying attention and you are trying to understand whats going on. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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