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| Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4668 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes  Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali | Message 49 of 63 26 July 2012 at 3:38pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Malayalam has a contrast between dental N, T and alveolar N,T.
In fast speech it's very difficult for a foreigner to hear the differences between the two (the difference is more articulatory than auditory). This means that: listen and repeat approach is not always the best. Since, in this particular case, the production is more important than perception (which is subtle at best). 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5056 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 50 of 63 26 July 2012 at 4:46pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
This is quite natural. To pronounce an unaspirated T and an unvoiced R in this situation. It's easier than with aspirated T and voiced R. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
 emk Diglot Moderator United States Joined 5532 days ago 2615 posts - 8806 votes Speaks: English*, FrenchB2 Studies: Spanish, Ancient Egyptian Personal Language Map | Message 51 of 63 26 July 2012 at 6:07pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
The unvoiced "-tr" appears in Old Norse. It's a very common ending, and the -r was either tapped or rolled. My brain is unfortunately convinced that this is how I should pronounce "votre" in French. As for the "5 H-like sounds (one of them voiced) and a phonemic glottal stop", that's one of the conventional reconstructions of Egyptian that keeps showing up in my beginner texts. From back to front, we have: Hieroglyph / transliteration / computer transliteration : description. * 𓉔 / h / h: The same H we have in English. * 𓎛 / ḥ (h dot) / H: A voiceless pharyngeal fricative (or approximant). * 𓂝 / ꜥ / a: As above, but voiced. Corresponds to ayin in the Hebrew alphabet? * 𓐍 / ḫ (h curved bar) / x: As in German "ach". * 𓄡 / ẖ (h straight bar) / X: As in German "ich". The glottal stop is often given as the recontructed pronunciation of 𓄿 / ꜣ / A. Of course, this reconstruction is doubtful, and nobody really tries to pronounce it, but it's still pretty amusing. Edited by emk on 26 July 2012 at 6:10pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4844 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 52 of 63 26 July 2012 at 9:46pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Being a German, the description of the "ach"- and the "ich"-sound as h-sounds seems rather bizarre to me... Not to mention what a phonetician had to say about it. Edited by Josquin on 26 July 2012 at 9:46pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Hampie Diglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6659 days ago 625 posts - 1009 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Latin, German, Mandarin | Message 53 of 63 27 July 2012 at 11:24am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Oh, I can make all those ;). To me many of them aren't really h-sounds. I also notice that my unicodesupport is crappy. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6597 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 54 of 63 27 July 2012 at 1:43pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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the forum's unicode support, i think...
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| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4844 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 55 of 63 27 July 2012 at 1:53pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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You have to download the Aegyptus font and install Gardiner.ttf before you can read hieroglyphs in unicode. It has nothing to do with the forum.
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| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5381 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 56 of 63 27 July 2012 at 3:11pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Yeah... that's because they aren't h's. x is a velar fricative and ç is a palatal fricative... 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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