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hrhenry
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 Message 17 of 26
24 July 2012 at 12:43am | IP Logged 
Gorgoll2 wrote:
@Serpent: As long I know, Britishmen aren´t able linguists.
Portuguese-speaking Brits tend to speak with a strong European accent.

I don't believe Brits are any less able than anyone else. And as far as strong accents
go, you'll find strong accents from many, many other nationalities speaking other
languages.

Many Anglophones don't speak other languages, accent or not, because there's currently
not a strong need to do so.

Nice try at trolling, though.

R.
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Medulin
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 Message 18 of 26
24 July 2012 at 12:53am | IP Logged 
Malayalam should be last in any ranking.
There is nothing on Malayalam :(
Except for a grammar and a dictionary.
But no textbook, courses, nothing, zip, nada :(
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hrhenry
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 Message 19 of 26
24 July 2012 at 1:55am | IP Logged 
Medulin wrote:
Malayalam should be last in any ranking.
There is nothing on Malayalam :(
Except for a grammar and a dictionary.
But no textbook, courses, nothing, zip, nada :(

A quick google search turned up "Colloquial Malayalam", Rachel Moag/University of
Wisconsin and "Malayalam: A University Course and Reference Grammar", Rodney
Moag/University of Michigan.

R.
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Edited by hrhenry on 24 July 2012 at 1:56am

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Medulin
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 Message 20 of 26
24 July 2012 at 2:16pm | IP Logged 
Yeah, that was the grammar I was referring to, which is not bad (but it does not use Malayalam alphabet but IPA symbols, so it's kinda useless if you want to know how all these forms are written).
And ''Colloquial Malayalam'' (from 1996) is a terrible course, spoken by a non-native speaker with a strong American accent. :( It's available on tapes only, and Malayalam words were written in a lousy handwriting, not in a printed Malayalam font :(

Furthermore, Amazon lists is as ''out of print''.
If they hired a native speaker, and used the proper printed font (and not some lousy handwriting), maybe it could make a nice course. Alphabets of Malayalam, Tamil, Hindi, Arabic, Urdu Thai are difficult to read in someone's bad handwritten form!

Edited by Medulin on 24 July 2012 at 2:26pm

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 Message 21 of 26
20 August 2012 at 11:27pm | IP Logged 
Guaraní... is definitely not mainstream, and its sound is great! ;-)

Chung wrote:
some of the "popular smaller" languages (i.e. < 20 million native speakers but "popular" on the forum)
[...]
Guaraní (1 result*)


How did you figure out that Guaraní was "popular" on the forum? According to the Members Language Profiles
there are 8 more members who study or speak this language... That one book on Amazon is not for learning the language.
Unfortunately there are barely any resources in English to learn Guaraní. Most of the material is in Spanish. I have
a few books to learn Guaraní from scratch, but the quality (from a linguistic point of view) has nothing to do with
the stuff we're used to have here in Europe to learn languages.
By the way, here is a useful Guarani Homepage with many links, online-bookshop, lessons, etc.

EDIT: I forgot to add a blog with a podcast in English: Let's talk Guaraníme

Edited by Mae on 20 August 2012 at 11:33pm

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Swift
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 Message 22 of 26
20 August 2012 at 11:53pm | IP Logged 
Serpent wrote:
Really, more resources for Polish than for Russian? I'm pretty sure that
in general there's a lot more stuff for Russian, although it might be more difficult to
get at a physical store depending on the location.

Well for an example, about 10% of students in my school are Polish immigrants, while I
have only ever met one Russian person in Ireland (who happens to have gone to my school).
While Russian may have more speakers than Polish, the Polish community is very well
established in Ireland so there are more learning materials for the language available
here.

Of course Russian probably wins out in worldwide circumstances (I have no experiences
with learning materials for either languages besides seeing them in bookshops).
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Serpent
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 Message 23 of 26
21 August 2012 at 1:00am | IP Logged 
Yeah but are the Irish actually learning Polish? :)
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Swift
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 Message 24 of 26
21 August 2012 at 4:07am | IP Logged 
Serpent wrote:
Yeah but are the Irish actually learning Polish? :)

My apologies, I didn't read through every post in the thread at first so I didn't see your earlier post asking that. :)

Honestly, I have never heard of an Irish person learning Polish. The subject isn't really taught in schools and as I understand it, the course that exists is for natives.

From an examiner's report, 594 people did Polish in 2011 while 291 did Russian. Does that really mean anything about which language is learned more in Ireland? Probably not, as we are only talking about a small demographic (students of around 18 years) and a lot of people taking Polish are natives. That is the best I can do though, as I have no personal knowledge.

Funnily enough only 4 people did Danish. I really wonder what is the point is of having a national exam for so few people! I guess it might be allowing immigrants the opportunity to use their language as a qualification for university. Poor neglected Danish, anyway.




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