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frenkeld
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 Message 41 of 47
16 August 2012 at 4:53pm | IP Logged 
onurdolar wrote:
English language having effect on development of culture around the world depends on intellectuals and elites of world understanding English and passing the knowledge to their people's just as french and latin did.

One factor to consider is that many countries have a large middle class, something that wasn't true in the past. In some of those countries it is no longer just "the elites" that know some English or are studying it. In that sense, English is in a different position than French ever was, although this is still no guarantee of permanence.


Edited by frenkeld on 16 August 2012 at 4:55pm

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 Message 42 of 47
16 August 2012 at 7:24pm | IP Logged 
English is already a lingua franca in Asia (except in China and Japan), from Korea to India, Malaysia, and Philippines, people learn English, and many are fluent.
The same is true of Southern parts of Africa, even in Mozambique people learn English (to communicate with neighbors).

Edited by Medulin on 16 August 2012 at 7:25pm

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 Message 43 of 47
16 August 2012 at 8:12pm | IP Logged 
Medulin wrote:
 English is already a lingua franca in Asia (except in China and Japan),
from Korea to India, Malaysia, and Philippines, people learn English, and many are
fluent.
The same is true of Southern parts of Africa, even in Mozambique people learn English (to
communicate with neighbors).


I agree in relation to Asia. But I'm not sure where you get your information about
Mozambique, where only about half the population manage to speak the official language
Portuguese. Apart from that, there are numerous Bantu languages spoken in the more rural
areas. However, despite being surrounded by anglophone countries, English is barely
spoken in Mozambique, even amongst the educated.
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 Message 44 of 47
16 August 2012 at 9:24pm | IP Logged 
Medulin wrote:
 English is already a lingua franca in Asia (except in China and Japan), from Korea to India, Malaysia, and Philippines, people learn English, and many are fluent.
The same is true of Southern parts of Africa, even in Mozambique people learn English (to communicate with neighbors).


People learn English everywhere in the world, but you can't get by on it well even in a tourist in most countries.

Wikipedia suggests English knowledge in Korea isn't so good. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_South_Korea#Englis h_education : "According to a 2003 survey conducted by the Hong Kong-based Political and Economic Risk Consultancy, despite being one of the countries in Asia that spends the most money on English-language education, South Korea ranks the lowest among 12 Asian countries in English ability."

Wikipedia's list of countries by English-speaking population might also be of interest...

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Medulin
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 Message 45 of 47
16 August 2012 at 9:34pm | IP Logged 
Well, Mozambique entered the Commonwealth in order to promote learning of English. ;)
In Maputo, pupils study Portuguese and English (and not Bantu languages, since unlike in South Africa, no Bantu language is official in MZ).

''All members except Mozambique and Rwanda were part of the British Empire, out of which the Commonwealth developed. '' (Wikipedia)


In India, tourists can manage with English just fine, since English is understood and spoken by people who should be familiar with English (public officials, police, tourism workers). ;)

Edited by Medulin on 16 August 2012 at 9:38pm

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 Message 46 of 47
16 August 2012 at 11:04pm | IP Logged 
Medulin wrote:
 English is already a lingua franca in Asia (except in China and Japan) from Korea to India, Malaysia, and Philippines, people learn English, and many are fluent.


A huge chunk of Russia lies in Asia. Very little English will be understood there. Mongolia won't have many English speakers either.
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Gabriel Anton
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 Message 47 of 47
17 August 2012 at 4:02pm | IP Logged 
I have to disagree with the people talking about economics and population, and agree with
the people talking about inertia and culture.

China could have an economy twice the size of the U.S, but at what point will a Dane -
Kenyan, and Indian all be learning Mandarin so that they may speak to each other?

Edited by Gabriel Anton on 17 August 2012 at 4:04pm



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