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michau
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 Message 9 of 11
07 May 2009 at 8:15pm | IP Logged 
couragepiece93 wrote:
I'm having trouble pronouncing the Norwegian long "u". It sounds to me like the "oo" sound in English (IPA: u) but according to IPA, it is a seperate sound. I've heard that it is a rounded version of the russian "ы" (which I also can't pronounce, aha). Can a speaker help me out with this?


First learn to pronounce Norwegian long "y". That's pretty straightforward for an English speaker. Say "ee" (IPA: i), and round your lips. That's it.

Norwegian long "y" (IPA: y) is the close front rounded vowel. English "oo" (IPA: u) is the close back rounded vowel. Try to pronounce the following (IPA) continously: yyyuuuyyyuuuyyyuuu and pay attention what happens with your tongue. You'll notice that it is moving inside your mouth, with one extreme position when you say "y" and another when you say "u". Try to stop your tongue just in the middle of these two positions. You'll end up pronouncing close central rounded vowel, a.k.a. Norwegian "u" (IPA: ʉ). Then you can try stop rounding your lips, and you'll see how to produce Russian "ы" and Polish "y" (IPA: ɨ).

AnneNedjma wrote:
couragepiece93 Have a look at the Dutch Alphabet on YouTube, they pronounce the letter U just like we do in Norwegian.


No, Dutch "u" can be pronounced as IPA ʏ or y, but not as ʉ.

PS. I'm trying to improve my English. Please PM me if you see any mistakes in my post.
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couragepiece93
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 Message 10 of 11
09 May 2009 at 4:55am | IP Logged 
This helped a lot, thanks! Though I still find it a little tricky to differentiate between the two u-ish sounds, I think I can pronounce the ʉ pretty well =)
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michau
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 Message 11 of 11
09 May 2009 at 8:17pm | IP Logged 
I don't think you need to care about differentiation between them while you're listening. In more than 90% of situations context makes it obvious which word is used. I can't think of a sentence where it is possible to substitute "hus" for "hos" without making it nonsense.

I would guess that since you are aware of the difference, you will start differentiate the sounds after some time, you just need to listen a lot of Norwegian.

PS. I'm trying to improve my English. Please PM me if you see any mistakes in my post.

Edited by michau on 09 May 2009 at 8:19pm



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