vikramkr Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6067 days ago 248 posts - 326 votes Speaks: English*, Portuguese
| Message 1 of 11 15 July 2009 at 5:24pm | IP Logged |
Hello,
I was wondering if anyone had any experience using and/or can attest to the quality of Le Nouveau Portugais Sans
Peine and/or Le Brésilien Sans Peine.
Thank You,
Vikram
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jpxt2 Triglot Groupie United States Joined 6729 days ago 46 posts - 52 votes Speaks: English, Spanish*, French Studies: Mandarin, Catalan, Portuguese, German, Italian
| Message 2 of 11 16 July 2009 at 12:53am | IP Logged |
I have Le Brésilien Sans Peine (2nd edition, 1985), and it is quite a good course! Recommended.
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vikramkr Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6067 days ago 248 posts - 326 votes Speaks: English*, Portuguese
| Message 3 of 11 16 July 2009 at 10:48pm | IP Logged |
jpxt2 wrote:
I have Le Brésilien Sans Peine (2nd edition, 1985), and it is quite a good course! Recommended. |
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Thanks for the feedback! It looks like I'll be acquiring it then.
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zorglub Pentaglot Senior Member France Joined 6998 days ago 441 posts - 504 votes 1 sounds Speaks: French*, English, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: German, Arabic (Written), Turkish, Mandarin
| Message 4 of 11 17 July 2009 at 12:40am | IP Logged |
I started portuguese with Pimsleur then with le brésilien sans peine: very good , lots of lovely idioms. But one of the female voices is not nice at all.
I then tried and improve my overall Portuguese vocabulary and understanding of Portugal Portuguese with Le Nouveau Portugais sans peine which is also very good.
According to the Brasilians I meet and chat or deal with at work, the courses I used are very good. They can't believe I never went to Brasil and learnt mostly in my car.
Note that a new edition of le brésilien is due to be published next October or September. I'll buy it , I did it for Spanish and Italian , this obviously reinforces my command of the language better than reading books in the target language (that are not designed to teach a language).
Edited by zorglub on 17 July 2009 at 12:42am
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vikramkr Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6067 days ago 248 posts - 326 votes Speaks: English*, Portuguese
| Message 5 of 11 17 July 2009 at 1:30am | IP Logged |
zorglub wrote:
I started portuguese with Pimsleur then with le brésilien sans peine: very good , lots of lovely idioms. But one of the female voices is not nice at all.
I then tried and improve my overall Portuguese vocabulary and understanding of Portugal Portuguese with Le Nouveau Portugais sans peine which is also very good.
According to the Brasilians I meet and chat or deal with at work, the courses I used are very good. They can't believe I never went to Brasil and learnt mostly in my car.
Note that a new edition of le brésilien is due to be published next October or September. I'll buy it , I did it for Spanish and Italian , this obviously reinforces my command of the language better than reading books in the target language (that are not designed to teach a language). |
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Thanks for your feedback! I'm glad I now know that this is a quality program. Additionally, if you hadn't posted here, I wouldn't have known about the new edition pending publication. I bought a 2001 edition of Le Brésilien Sans Peine online earlier this afternoon, but was able to cancel it. Now, I wait...
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fanatic Octoglot Senior Member Australia speedmathematics.com Joined 7144 days ago 1152 posts - 1818 votes Speaks: English*, German, French, Afrikaans, Italian, Spanish, Russian, Dutch Studies: Swedish, Norwegian, Polish, Modern Hebrew, Malay, Mandarin, Esperanto
| Message 6 of 11 17 July 2009 at 2:45am | IP Logged |
I would recommend buying both the old and the new. I have several versions of some languages and they help. A new version doesn't make the old one redundant.
I like having two sets of explanations and one course reinforces what is learnt in the other.
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goosefrabbas Triglot Pro Member United States Joined 6366 days ago 393 posts - 475 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish Studies: German, Italian Personal Language Map
| Message 7 of 11 17 July 2009 at 2:52am | IP Logged |
zorglub, how did you handle learning both Brazilian and Continental Portuguese at the same time, as far as vocabulary, verbs, and accent go? I've read that Continental Portuguese is a lot more nasal than Brazilian, and that Brazilian uses the progressive form whereas Continental doesn't.
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zorglub Pentaglot Senior Member France Joined 6998 days ago 441 posts - 504 votes 1 sounds Speaks: French*, English, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: German, Arabic (Written), Turkish, Mandarin
| Message 8 of 11 19 July 2009 at 8:26pm | IP Logged |
vikramkr wrote:
Thanks for your feedback! I'm glad I now know that this is a quality program. Additionally, if you hadn't posted here, I wouldn't have known about the new edition pending publication. I bought a 2001 edition of Le Brésilien Sans Peine online earlier this afternoon, but was able to cancel it. Now, I wait...
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Don't cancel it , get it !
The new one may be better equal or worse.
And I find it useful to use and shadow 2 different sets that reinforce each otehr
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