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Fasulye
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 Message 9 of 15
24 September 2010 at 3:49pm | IP Logged 
I have once more made the experience that sitting in a language class - which has to be taught in the foreign language - enhances my thinking in the foreign language much more than only passively listening to audios on MP3 or CD. I experienced this yesterday in my new Danish course. After the course I pratically spent a whole day of thinking in Danish (in easy sentence structures) and this was the very first time that I was capable of doing this. This proves one more to me that self-study for me is not enough to reach the thinking level in any language. I need immersion in the language or at least classroom immersion with a good teacher who keeps the lessson in the foreign language without translating every stupid word into German (as my former Turkish teacher did).

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 Message 10 of 15
24 September 2010 at 4:24pm | IP Logged 
My last experience in a language classroom was such a waste of time that I regretted going and didn't attend the last classes. It reminded me how much time is wasted and how slow it is, and it only reinforced, for me, that self-study is the way to go. I'm surprised you'd say it made you think in the language, because even in advanced classes, there'll away be someone speaking English and it doesn't compare to speaking the language with natives.
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 Message 11 of 15
25 September 2010 at 6:25am | IP Logged 
Fasulye wrote:
I have once more made the experience that sitting in a language class - which has to be taught in the foreign language - enhances my thinking in the foreign language much more than only passively listening to audios on MP3 or CD.


If you mostly engage in passive activities during self-study, it seems reasonable that it would feel like you are not thinking enough in the target language. Is it possible that you find language classes helpful simply because they force you to use the language actively more than you do on your own?

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 Message 12 of 15
25 September 2010 at 6:04pm | IP Logged 
It depends on the environment for me. Language is tied closely to its usage with other people; if my thoughts are only meant to be for myself I do not need to express them in any language.
Before I went to Spain I favoured the language that was easiest to communicate in, in Spain I learnt to favour the community language. That means that even though I am still a beginner in French, once I am in France my brain desparately tries to think in French.
(In French class it still wants to rely on Spanish 'because that is easier and almost the same anyways' )= )
So what for me works is:
-being in a predominantly target-language environment (if possible, one in which I might have to speak sooner or later)
-imagining I am talking to a specific person with whom I would have to use the target language
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 Message 13 of 15
25 September 2010 at 8:34pm | IP Logged 
I don't think this needs to be a special activity. You can just do this randomly, on the bus, in the car, while eating
lunch at work, etc. For instance, the other day I practiced translating a simple conversation I overheard from English
into Spanish. Eavesdropping aside (I didn't care about the content in and of itself, of course), I was pleased to see
that I could formulate most of the same sentences in Spanish and not with any great deal of difficulty.
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 Message 14 of 15
12 November 2010 at 6:14pm | IP Logged 
I agree with Merv, sometimes I take notes or just normal daily things, in a foreign language to keep up the "thought" process of the language. I like to use different languages within taking the notes, for example, start in English, then rotate to Spanish, and back again.
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 Message 15 of 15
14 November 2010 at 5:22am | IP Logged 
I constantly think in Spanish and when I catch myself thinking in English I force myself to re-think it in Spanish. I don't have the same opportunities to speak Spanish with Mexicans at work anymore so I do all I can to keep it fresh in my mind.

One thing that really helps is I have my ipod in my ear during work everyday with Spanish podcasts so sometimes I can go for hours without any English interaction at all, this makes it easy for me to think in Spanish.    

Another thing I do is translate in my head English tv or movies into Spanish while I watch if there's no Spanish available. This forces me to think in Spanish while I'm listening to English.

If a movie doesn't have Spanish audio, but does have Spanish subtitles I'll put the audio on French and read the subtitles in Spanish. This way there's no English distractions and as I read the entire film in real time I'm only thinking in Spanish.   

I was watching Inglorious Bastards with Spanish audio and there was a scene where the languages switched and they were speaking in German and maybe something else too so when the Spanish subtitles came on it was a really cool feeling as they looked just as familiar to me as if they were in English.   

Anyway, kind of a long post but yeah, thinking in your target language is important in my opinion.




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