John Smith Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Australia Joined 6033 days ago 396 posts - 542 votes Speaks: English*, Czech*, Spanish Studies: German
| Message 1 of 16 17 October 2010 at 11:19am | IP Logged |
I rote learn almost everything. Many people, however, view rote learning as a very poor way of memorizing information. What about you?
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Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6002 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh
| Message 2 of 16 17 October 2010 at 1:35pm | IP Logged |
Rote learning is a great way of memorising information, it's just a very poor way of learning meaningful information.
Richard Of York Gave Battle in Vain. There's no better way I know of of remembering the order of the spectrum of visible light. I will never forget the mnemonic because I will always need it, because the order is not inherently meaningful.
I said "a little useful" because even though rote learning isn't "learning a language", memorising the rules does give you a "reference book in your head" that you can use to teach yourself later.
Edited by Cainntear on 17 October 2010 at 1:37pm
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fireflies Senior Member Joined 5172 days ago 172 posts - 234 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 3 of 16 17 October 2010 at 6:58pm | IP Logged |
I think its good for learning a great deal of information in a small amount of time for purposes such as studying for a written test. It doesn't mean it will stick with you in a useful way if you don't use it in practice.
This is probably more true of languages than some other subjects.
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Splog Diglot Senior Member Czech Republic anthonylauder.c Joined 5660 days ago 1062 posts - 3263 votes Speaks: English*, Czech Studies: Mandarin
| Message 4 of 16 17 October 2010 at 8:30pm | IP Logged |
I am not sure what "rote learning" means. It is "cramming" as quickly as possible, or is
it frequent repetition?
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Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6694 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map
| Message 5 of 16 17 October 2010 at 9:58pm | IP Logged |
I suppose that the majority here would characterize my wordlists as something close to rote learning. And this is not without foundation, but due to the varied nature of my memory hooks and my free choice of words to learn I don't feel it as a boring chore. In a way you could say that I try to make rote learning meaningful, which rote learning by definition shouldn't be.
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John Smith Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Australia Joined 6033 days ago 396 posts - 542 votes Speaks: English*, Czech*, Spanish Studies: German
| Message 6 of 16 18 October 2010 at 5:48am | IP Logged |
Splog wrote:
I am not sure what "rote learning" means. It is "cramming" as quickly as possible, or is
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Reading the same thing over and over until you remember it. It's not cramming. You can rote learn when you cram though.
I think most Czech people use rote learning. Naucit se neco zpameti. Treba basnicku.
Example
On = He
Ona = She
^^ you read the above hundreds of times.
I don't really see how you can avoid rote learning.
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Ari Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6573 days ago 2314 posts - 5695 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese Studies: Czech, Latin, German
| Message 7 of 16 18 October 2010 at 7:25am | IP Logged |
Discussions of rote learning are often plagued by an inability to agree what the term actually means. If the question is not paired with a working definition I think the poll won't produce any useful results.
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Nudimmud Groupie United States Joined 5183 days ago 87 posts - 161 votes Studies: Greek, Korean
| Message 8 of 16 19 October 2010 at 8:56am | IP Logged |
For me rote learning is impossible for most things, both because I have a very poor memory and because I had rote learning. If you good at it, and more importantly you enjoy it, I think it could be a valuable part of any intellectual endeavourer, and particularly language learning. But if not, I would definitely put my vote for not using it. There are so many rewarding and effective tools for modern day language acquisition.
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