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| Michael K. Senior Member United States Joined 5671 days ago 568 posts - 886 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Esperanto | Message 9 of 47 24 February 2012 at 8:15pm | IP Logged | ||
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Yes, I have.
I keep going through methods and languages and get bored with them too easily. I may come to the conclusion that self-study without a teacher isn't for me, and that I need more structure and accountability than what self-study offers. I'm going to stick with "Spanish for Reading" because if I study it for an hour a day I could easily get through it by my birthday (4 July). I'm still trying to find a course I like for Esperanto, but I downloaded Kurso last night so I'll see if I like that. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6381 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 10 of 47 24 February 2012 at 9:36pm | IP Logged | ||
A lot of beginner courses for Esperanto take a few hours. If you sat down on a Saturday and concentrated, you'd finish such a course. I find anything gets boring if one sticks to reading the introductions for a year or two. Good luck with Kurso. (And no, I don't recommend powering through any course where human corrections are recommended). And good luck with Spanish for Reading. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Michael K. Senior Member United States Joined 5671 days ago 568 posts - 886 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Esperanto | Message 11 of 47 24 February 2012 at 11:25pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks again, Volte.
I finished the second lesson in Kurso and like it so far. I'm going to do one lesson a day like they suggest. Since I liked Bildoj kaj Demandoj when I tried it about a year ago, I could go through that. My school schedule is light this coming week, so I'll try to get through as much of BkD as possible tomorrow. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6381 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 12 of 47 25 February 2012 at 12:37am | IP Logged | ||
Good luck! I hope it goes well for you. I'll try to answer any questions you post here if I'm around. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Michael K. Senior Member United States Joined 5671 days ago 568 posts - 886 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Esperanto | Message 13 of 47 27 February 2012 at 3:59am | IP Logged | ||
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I started on Ana Pana and have done 4 lessons, so I'm halfway through the course.
I've made my tutor laugh a few times. First, I wrote "Mi logxas en Usono?" accidentally with a question mark, and the tutor responded in Esperanto "why are you hesitant?" Then, there was a question asking if I sang well, and I said no, which he thought was funny. I wanted to say I sing in church choir and that I play the trombone, so I have some modicum of musical talent, but I didn't have the time and I don't know "play" as in "to play an instrument." It also asked if I liked to cook, which I don't, but I said I like to eat. He writes his responses in Esperanto, which is fine, but I asked him once to write in English so I could understand. It's fun. I think I'm just going to study Esperanto for awhile. I might dabble in Hebrew since it caught my eye recently, and I have a book for it, but I don't think I'll do much. Gxis revido. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6381 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 14 of 47 27 February 2012 at 4:09pm | IP Logged | ||
Congrats on the progress! "To play" is "ludi" in Esperanto, regardless of whether it's games or musical instruments. Esperanto doesn't have a separate verb for these, unlike some Romance languages. Vi povintus skribi "Mi kantas en preĝeja ĥoro, kaj ludas trombonon, do mi havas iom da musika talento". The sound ĥ is difficult for most people to pronounce, and wasn't in many words to begin with, so words with it are falling out of use and getting replaced by other forms, though it's an ongoing process. Usually they change to having an h or k, but both horo and koro are already Esperanto words, and so "ĥoro" ended up changing to "koruso". You can freely use either. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Michael K. Senior Member United States Joined 5671 days ago 568 posts - 886 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Esperanto | Message 15 of 47 27 February 2012 at 10:42pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thnks, Volte.
Yeah, the hx sound is hard, I was listening to it in Kurso and it sounded kind of hard, but it is common in some languages. I was studying some Hebrew today and that is a sound in the language, and of course there's the g sound in Dutch. That said, I'll probably use koruso, since it seems easier to remember and is similar to English. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Michael K. Senior Member United States Joined 5671 days ago 568 posts - 886 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Esperanto | Message 16 of 47 28 February 2012 at 7:37pm | IP Logged | ||
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I sent in lesson 6 of Ana Pana today and did pretty poorly.
I think I'm going to stay on it for awhile, and maybe get more practice in. It was about education and jobs, so it's very relevant for me, and I wrote more than I do to try to express myself. The best thing I can do right now is try to decipher my tutor's notes in Esperanto. I knew I got a lot wrong. Too bad there is no easy way to say "community college" in Esperanto. I'm not down about it and I know this sort of thing is ievitable in learning languages. It's just that I think I've accomplished a lot and now I made a lot of mistakes. It isn't demotivating, it's just a little surprising. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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