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| jellyfish Triglot Groupie Japan Joined 4793 days ago 50 posts - 70 votes  Speaks: English, German*, Japanese Studies: Thai, Persian, Russian | Message 17 of 35 22 February 2012 at 5:09pm | IP Logged | ||
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In China now, with not that much free time to spend on studying, but I've finally tired of Easy Persian and moved on to the Routledge Introductory course. Very delighted about the example sentences it provides for all the vocabulary introduced; using them (with audio) to start a Persian 10,000-sentence-journey. I've got about 50 sentences so far and am really enjoying the method, it's pretty effective for learning grammatical structures and expressions. Going to work my way through the book, adding sentences to the corresponding anki deck, and individual pieces of vocab to the other.
I did the usual 2-3 hours of Persian per day between my last post and my leaving Japan on the 17th, about five hours on the boat to Shanghai, and then another couple of hours yesterday. 1 1/2 hours of Pimsleur Russian on the train from Shanghai to Hangzhou. All going well. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5342 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 18 of 35 22 February 2012 at 6:04pm | IP Logged | ||
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In China, learning Persian and Russian on the way, I like the way you operate! What are you doing in China
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| jellyfish Triglot Groupie Japan Joined 4793 days ago 50 posts - 70 votes Speaks: English, German*, Japanese Studies: Thai, Persian, Russian | Message 19 of 35 23 February 2012 at 11:44am | IP Logged | ||
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Just travelling around for six weeks, since Japan generously grants me a very long spring holiday! I'm more tempted than ever to start learning Chinese, but luckily my boyfriend speaks enough of it to communicate efficiently with the locals and get us hitch-hiked to places, so I'll stick to my current languages for the time being. ;)
Woke up to an email from a Russian friend and replied with surprising ease this morning! There's a 20-hour train journey from Hangzhou to Guangzhou coming up, which should get me through another few chapters of Pimsleur and the Routledge Persian course... there's nothing more conducive to efficient learning than having Facebook blocked for six weeks, haha. Edited by jellyfish on 23 February 2012 at 11:46am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Woodsei Bilingual Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Woodsei Joined 4805 days ago 614 posts - 782 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Egyptian)* Studies: Russian, Japanese, Hungarian | Message 20 of 35 23 February 2012 at 1:57pm | IP Logged | ||
Haha, I can relate to that :) I really envy you, traveling around from Japan to China :) I too find focusing on sentences fun and useful. It helps loads to zero in on grammatical patterns and useful expressions. I like listening/reading to texts too, as they provide you lots of example sentences in different usages! I was looking at some Japanese books a while ago and remembered that predicament you're in regarding newspaper reading. I did read a while ago about something called Kanji Odyssey, which basically provides you with kanji readings in sentences extracted from newspapers. Now, you obviously are at a pretty advanced level in Japanese, so I don't know how helpful the sentences themselves are to your Japanese, but I guess it might help with the newspaper readings? I did see a shared deck on Anki for the sentences, but if you want the book and audio, you'll have to purchase it, I think. I didn't try it out, so I can't be sure how effective it is. Here's the link to the site: Kanji Odyssey Another two resources I found which would probably be more relevant and efficient to you are a couple of books I found on Amazon. Here are the links: Japanese/dp/B002865NK6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1330001391&sr= 8-1">Intro To Newspaper Japanese]Introduction to Newspaper Japanese[/URL] and Kikuoka/dp/0804809194/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1330001391&sr=8 -2"> Ultimately, the best learning is learning through example, and using authentic material. But I guess it may help to use a guide to help with a particularly complicated and/or overlooked area. I hope you find these links helpful. Keep on posting all your wonderful adventures! Edited by Woodsei on 23 February 2012 at 2:07pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Woodsei Bilingual Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Woodsei Joined 4805 days ago 614 posts - 782 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Egyptian)* Studies: Russian, Japanese, Hungarian | Message 21 of 35 23 February 2012 at 2:12pm | IP Logged | ||
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The links don't seem to be working for some reason.
Anyway, here are the titles and authors so you can check them on Amazon. 1. An Introduction to Newspaper Japanese by Nobuku Mizutani, Osamu Mizutani http://www.amazon.com/An-Introduction-to-Newspaper-Japanese/ dp/B002865NK6/ref=sr_1_1? ie=UTF8&qid=1330001391&sr=8-1 2. Japanese Newspaper Compounds by Tadashi Kikuoka http://www.amazon.com/Japanese-Newspaper-Compounds-Tadashi- Kikuoka/dp/0804809194/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1330001391&sr=8 -2 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| jellyfish Triglot Groupie Japan Joined 4793 days ago 50 posts - 70 votes Speaks: English, German*, Japanese Studies: Thai, Persian, Russian | Message 22 of 35 23 February 2012 at 4:33pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thank you, that looks very interesting! I've been intending to get back into actively studying Japanese on a more advanced level sometime before applying for an MA in Japanese translation. Those books look like they'll be a good formal introduction to newspaper-level material; although I do have the actual native source material readily available, it's just too much work plunging straight into it with a big dictionary. And my Japanese language classes at uni are frankly useless. Especially since Japanese newspapers do use some odd structures that are actually unique to newspapers; making heads and tails of headlines is a bit of a science, really... so I'll definitely look into those books, cheers!
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| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5342 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 24 of 35 28 February 2012 at 9:52pm | IP Logged | ||
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Can you by the way tell me if it is o.k. to travel in China without speaking Chinese? I am considering to take the Transsiberian at some point, from China to Russia, and as you know I am working on my Russian, but I doubt that I'll be able to learn enough Mandarin to make any sense in the year or two before I might be going since I am working on other languages.
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