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Ari
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Norway
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Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese
Studies: Czech, Latin, German

 
 Message 9 of 13
31 January 2012 at 6:44am | IP Logged 
jimbo wrote:
I saw it in Dymocks in the Prince's Building in Central.

Goddammit, I've been in that very bookstore and I missed it. Thanks again for the tip.
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rae0011
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Hong Kong
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Speaks: Cantonese*, Mandarin, English, SpanishB2

 
 Message 10 of 13
05 February 2012 at 2:36pm | IP Logged 
Hi, I'm a native Cantonese speaker from Hong Kong. There was a radio programme called
'Naked Cantonese'. It was hosted by a Norwegian lady teaching local expats (?)
Cantonese.

Regarding the relationship between Mandarin and Cantonese, in my opinion, it's like
Spanish and Portuguese (or even French). Our tonal system is a bit more complicated...
For example, we have sharp ending sound like /t/, /k/, /d/ which do not exist in
Mandarin.

In the past we didn't really care to learn Mandarin so most of the people, say over 25
don't speak Mandarin. Even if we speak it, we speak it with a distint accent. After the
handover, of course, it became more popular.

Anyway, thank you for your interest in Cantonese. Feel free to let me know if you have
any questions!
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BobbyE
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Speaks: English*, Mandarin

 
 Message 11 of 13
05 February 2012 at 7:56pm | IP Logged 
When I originally wanted to learn a foreign language, it was Mandarin or Cantonese.
This is because I wanted to study martial arts at home with out a teacher (haha my
naivete), but the only videos I could find were in Mandarin/Cantonese. I could some
really bad advice that Chinese languages were too difficult for a beginner and I should
start on an easier more practical language for a US citizen... Spanish. So I spent a
year on Spanish (Platiquemos) and now have a really basically, survival level of
Spanish. However, if I would have originally started with the language my heart truly
desired, I'd be much better off now. The only reason I don't regret that time with
Spanish is the many people I get to talk to in their native tongue in my day-to-day
life, otherwise it would have been a waste.

I highly recommend pursuing Cantonese instead of Mandarin, since that is what you truly
want. Also, I would really suggest doing some kind of listening-reading method, using
Steve Kaufman (youtube name: lingosteve), Luca (poliglotta), or Moses McCormick
(laoshu) for inspiration and an idea of how to proceed and what to expect out of
listening-reading. That is what I am doing with Mandarin right now and so far I'm
really happy with my progress.

Edited by BobbyE on 05 February 2012 at 7:58pm

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jimbo
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Speaks: English*, Mandarin, Korean, French
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 Message 12 of 13
06 February 2012 at 5:15pm | IP Logged 
jimbo wrote:
Ari wrote:
I thought the Sidney Lau dictionary was out of print! Last time I was in Hong Kong
I couldn't find it, but maybe I didn't look hard enough. I'm going back next month and I'll be sure to look again.


I saw it in Dymocks in the Prince's Building in Central.


Having just passed through Hong Kong where I popped into a few bookstores, I've found that I need to make
some corrections. My apologies.

1. I did not see the Sidney Lau dictionary anywhere.
2. The Dymocks that used to be located in the Prince's Building moved to another building nearby.
3. The bookstore I meant to refer to was the Bookazine on the third floor of the Prince's building. They have the
six books in the Sidney Lau Cantonese series but were sold out of the dictionary. They said they can order it.

I think I've seen it at Swindon books as well but I managed to resist going there this trip.
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zhanglong
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Studies: Mandarin, Cantonese

 
 Message 13 of 13
26 April 2012 at 7:32am | IP Logged 
jimbo wrote:
jimbo wrote:
Ari wrote:
I thought the Sidney Lau dictionary was out of print! Last time I was in Hong Kong
I couldn't find it, but maybe I didn't look hard enough. I'm going back next month and I'll be sure to look again.


I saw it in Dymocks in the Prince's Building in Central.


Having just passed through Hong Kong where I popped into a few bookstores, I've found that I need to make
some corrections. My apologies.

1. I did not see the Sidney Lau dictionary anywhere.
2. The Dymocks that used to be located in the Prince's Building moved to another building nearby.
3. The bookstore I meant to refer to was the Bookazine on the third floor of the Prince's building. They have the
six books in the Sidney Lau Cantonese series but were sold out of the dictionary. They said they can order it.

I think I've seen it at Swindon books as well but I managed to resist going there this trip.


I will stop by this bookstore soon to see what's available. In terms of vocabulary, are the Lau books horribly dated? How are they in terms of grammar? (I'd expect that the grammar of a language not change terribly in 40 years while vocabulary will definitely and necessarily change)


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