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| dandt Senior Member Australia regarderetlire.wordp Joined 4615 days ago 134 posts - 174 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, French | Message 9 of 18 15 April 2012 at 11:39pm | IP Logged | ||
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I think the script is beautiful. Seeing as I'm still a beginner in French, and Italian is my next language, it may be a
long way off, or I may never learn it. But I still think the script is beautiful! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Mani Diglot Senior Member Germany imsprachendickicht.b Joined 4896 days ago 258 posts - 323 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Swedish, Portuguese, Latin, Welsh, Luxembourgish | Message 10 of 18 16 April 2012 at 10:42am | IP Logged | ||
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Well, as tanya b already opened this thread :) ... I'm one of the newbies to Armenian. I laid my hands on a copy of Assimil - L'Arménien sans peine and can't get away from it, though I'm stuck in lesson 6 because I swore to myself I won't go on until I know the alphabet (which might take a while because it really is a beast!). So I can't say much about Armenian yet only that I really like the way it sounds and that the alphabet is giving me a hard time, but I will stick to it. :)
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| COF Senior Member United States Joined 5822 days ago 262 posts - 354 votes Speaks: English* | Message 11 of 18 17 April 2012 at 1:41am | IP Logged | ||
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What's the difference between Eastern Armenian and Western Armenian and why is there such a significant devide in what is such as geographically small country?
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| Merv Bilingual Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5264 days ago 414 posts - 749 votes Speaks: English*, Serbo-Croatian* Studies: Spanish, French | Message 12 of 18 17 April 2012 at 2:22am | IP Logged | ||
Before the Armenian genocide, Armenians lived over a much broader area, not just the Caucasus but the Armenian plateau and all the way down to Armenian Cilicia on the Mediterranean Sea. Hence, this should explain to you why there are distinct Western and Eastern Armenian. As far as I know, Western Armenian is spoken primarily by pre- and post-genocide Ottoman Armenians (not that many today), whereas Eastern Armenian is spoken in modern (Russian, historically) Armenia, other parts of the former Soviet Union, and the newer diaspora that came out of it. Someone Armenian please correct me if I'm wrong. 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| liddytime Pentaglot Senior Member United States mainlymagyar.wordpre Joined 6220 days ago 693 posts - 1328 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Galician Studies: Hungarian, Vietnamese, Modern Hebrew, Norwegian, Persian, Arabic (Written) | Message 13 of 18 17 April 2012 at 2:28am | IP Logged | ||
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Correct me if I'm wrong but the way it was explained to me was;
Eastern was spoken in the part of the Ottoman empire that is present day Armenia whereas Western was spoken in what is present day Turkey. With the Armenian genocide and "relocation" of the early 20th century most of the Western Armenian speakers fled and created the Armenian diaspora whereas the Eastern Armenian speakers remained in present day Armenia. Most of the differences between them are phonologic although there are also differences in vocabulary. There are many Russian derived words in Eastern Armenian as a result of the Soviet Armenia years. Also, Soviet Armenia simplified the script somewhat while Western Armenian retains more of the Classical Armenian script. Armenian speakers have told me that the two dialects are not mutually intelligible (similar to Spanish and Portuguese) but after a week or two of exposure to the foreign dialect, intelligibility is possible. edit: ha ha Merv: you beat me to it by 6 minutes! :-) Edited by liddytime on 17 April 2012 at 2:29am 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| vonPeterhof Tetraglot Senior Member Russian FederationRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4763 days ago 715 posts - 1527 votes Speaks: Russian*, EnglishC2, Japanese, German Studies: Kazakh, Korean, Norwegian, Turkish | Message 14 of 18 17 April 2012 at 9:00am | IP Logged | ||
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| onurdolar Diglot Groupie TurkeyRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4643 days ago 98 posts - 147 votes Speaks: Turkish*, English Studies: Italian, German | Message 15 of 18 17 April 2012 at 4:10pm | IP Logged | ||
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Well I'm not an Armenian but as far as i know it Armenians lived in a wide area in Ottoman Empire. First of all there were many Armenians living in Major cities of the Empire such as Istanbul ( Constantinople ), Bursa ( Proussa ), İzmir ( Smyrna ) and even Salonika ( Thessaloniki ). Also Armenians used to live in an area covering much of eastern modern Turkey, Chilicia ( Adana, Mersin, Hatay provinces of Modern Turkey and some parts of Northern Syria if you want to check the map ) and western Iran as well as modern Armenia and Georgia.
Western Armenia was the name given to whole Ottoman Armenia thus modern Eastern Turkey and Chilicia and as far as i know Eastern Armenia was the area under Iran influence ( later Russian ). Remainin Armenian minority in Turkey are speakers of Western Armenian as far as i know it and most of the diaspora as well. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5047 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 16 of 18 17 April 2012 at 5:16pm | IP Logged | ||
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I think there are many Armenian dialects but two standart languages. They differ at all
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