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Most difficult Indo-European language?

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COF
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 Message 1 of 21
26 June 2012 at 9:54pm | IP Logged 
I would say it is Polish. 7 Cases, difficult pronunciation and full of irregularities.
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sipes23
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26 June 2012 at 10:02pm | IP Logged 
Sanskrit. They won't use IPA to describe sounds (not that Latin or Greek do either), but all sorts of funky diacritics
that aren't strictly consistent in Romanization. Wait. They think Romanization of the alphabet is acceptable in
scholarly materials (Clay Sanskrit Library). The materials (I've seen so far) are terrible. Oh, and 8 cases and sandhi.

Polish doesn't seem completely opaque. At least it's phonetic when written.
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tractor
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 Message 3 of 21
26 June 2012 at 10:12pm | IP Logged 
Most difficult for whom?
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jeff_lindqvist
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 Message 4 of 21
27 June 2012 at 1:02am | IP Logged 
In case anyone really wants to read about this...
http://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2009/12/01/more-on-the-ha rdest-languages-to-learn/
http://www.antimoon.com/forum/t6211.htm

Edited by jeff_lindqvist on 27 June 2012 at 1:03am

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tanya b
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27 June 2012 at 1:50am | IP Logged 
The OP's question probably should have included "from the point of view of a native English speaker".

I once read the US Defense Language Institute's website and it states that it takes 1700 hours for a native English speaker to become fluent in Russian, which is about 3 times longer than French or Spanish. This also takes into account having to study a new alphabet which wouldn't be necessary in the study of Polish. My friends are often more amazed that I can read a newspaper article in Russian, because it's inconceivable to them that someone could teach themselves a new alphabet, even though it is relatively easy and almost entirely phonetic.

However, I doubt that Russian would be as difficult as Pashto, which has some of the same harsh sounds as Russian as well as a script which would be bewildering to most Westerners. Pashto is closely related to Farsi, and you are more likely to meet a Siamese twin than an American who has mastered Farsi. I don't understand why Farsi is so difficult to learn for English speakers, maybe the reason is psychological more than anything else.

The most difficult IE language for me is Welsh--painfully difficult to pronounce, impossible to determine the gender of nouns, and all those silly mutations. Had to give it up, I don't make a good masochist.
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tastyonions
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 Message 6 of 21
27 June 2012 at 2:54am | IP Logged 
tanya b wrote:
Pashto is closely related to Farsi, and you are more likely to meet a Siamese twin than an American who has mastered Farsi. I don't understand why Farsi is so difficult to learn for English speakers, maybe the reason is psychological more than anything else.

I have been interested in Farsi for some time and read a blog post arguing that it was not nearly as difficult as commonly believed, and in fact easier in some respects than other IE languages.

Edited by tastyonions on 27 June 2012 at 2:55am

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fiziwig
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 Message 7 of 21
27 June 2012 at 5:07am | IP Logged 
The one that made me tear my hair out was Sanskrit. I never got very far with it, but it
was frighteningly difficult compared to the IE languages I had studied previously.
(English, Latin, German)
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lingoleng
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 Message 8 of 21
27 June 2012 at 6:20am | IP Logged 
tanya b wrote:
"from the point of view of a native English speaker".

The forum software should automatically detect and delete this phrase, imh rest-of-the-world-pov ...


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