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| sabotai Senior Member United States Joined 5882 days ago 391 posts - 489 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: German, Japanese, Korean, French | Message 33 of 38 01 July 2012 at 8:15pm | IP Logged | ||
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Speaking at a C1 or C2 level isn't really a goal for me in any language I am learning (if that's the level we are setting for being "fluent"). My main goals for learning languages are listening and reading. I want to read novels, nonfiction, websites, etc. in their native languages and I want to be able to listen to music and watch TV, movies, documentaries, etc. in their native languages. That doesn't mean I don't work on my active skills. My goal for speaking and writing is to get around a B1 level, maybe B2 in a few of my languages.
If things change and I have the chance to live in a foreign country, then I'll definitely change my plans and strive for fluency in whatever native language is surrounding me.. But for now, C1 or higher in passive and B1 or higher in active are my goals for the languages I am learning. 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| okapi Diglot Newbie Belgium Joined 4533 days ago 1 posts - 1 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishB2 | Message 34 of 38 03 July 2012 at 4:44pm | IP Logged | ||
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since I love the English language, I wish I could be fluent someday. But it's mostly a dream, I don't think that goal is realistic to me unless I can live in an English speaking country for at least a year. Although I can manage, I still need a dictionary when I read a novel, and I might not understand everything in a film or tv program.
I'm currently B2 at English, and I hope I can reach C1 next year. Besides, I can speak a little dutch and due to a next work as volunteer, I am willing to learn korean. I will stay three month there, so I know it's too short to get fluent. However it sounds beautiful to me and the writing is very special too, I want to improve a lot at it. I think I am going to love South Korea and its people. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| geoffw Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 4688 days ago 1134 posts - 1865 votes Speaks: English*, German, Yiddish Studies: Modern Hebrew, French, Dutch, Italian, Russian | Message 35 of 38 03 July 2012 at 6:57pm | IP Logged | ||
This has definitely been my experience. However, the fact that it is easier to learn to read than to speak is for me definitely a result of the information age, in which so much written material is available anywhere, any time, while real, meaningful speaking opportunities are generally much harder to come by. I don't think it's because of any innate difference making speaking harder. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Laurae Diglot Groupie Germany Joined 5038 days ago 51 posts - 67 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: French, Dutch | Message 36 of 38 04 July 2012 at 11:30am | IP Logged | ||
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It depends on the language. I intend to continue studying German to a level where I can speak, write, listen and read with C2 fluency.
To be honest, since I genuinely doubt that I will ever be able to understand spoken French with ease, or more particularly master anything approaching a comprehensible accent, my aim is to develop fluency in reading and writing. Equally with Russian, my aim is to develop fluency in reading and writing, while a 'tourist's command' of the spoken language will suffice. Italian and Spanish are on my hit list, and I imagine that I will want to achieve a spoken fluency in these. Edited by Laurae on 04 July 2012 at 11:31am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| outcast Bilingual Heptaglot Senior Member China Joined 4949 days ago 869 posts - 1364 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English*, German, Italian, French, Portuguese, Mandarin Studies: Korean | Message 37 of 38 05 July 2012 at 1:45am | IP Logged | ||
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I'm an all or nothing person, so my answer would be obvious. I pour 110% of efforts at any project I decide to undertake or I don't start at all. This is a great trait to have, but also can prove deleterious in two ways: I may linger too long on a project to achieve a lofty level, to the point the effort gets exponential for a diminishing return (Pareto principle); or I may not start at all.
For example, I want to learn Italian to a basic level, but have not touched my Italian book due to a sense of betraying my goal of advanced fluency in German, French, an Portuguese before allowing myself to "flirt" with Italian, Swedish, Russian, etc. My goals are clear: advanced C1 fluency in the target languages you see on my profile. I'm well on my way there, however. This ship's been out in space for almost a couple of years now :) ... So I'm closer to the finish than the starting line. The caveat is I want to reach this level in the Indo-European languages I chose before fully immersing myself in the challenge of Mandarin. It would only be then, and always with Mandarin as my overwhelming focus, that I will reward myself with Italian and Swedish, which given my language knowledge should be relatively simple to get to B1-B2 without heavy strain. In short, yes. That is why I never have been interested in Latin or other dead tongues. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Julie Heptaglot Senior Member PolandRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6903 days ago 1251 posts - 1733 votes 5 sounds Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, GermanC2, SpanishB2, Dutch, Swedish, French | Message 38 of 38 09 July 2012 at 3:00am | IP Logged | ||
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It depends on the language. I definitely aimed at speaking fluency in English and German
but I don't have such ambitions for my other languages, at least not at the very moment. B2-C2 (depending on the language) reading and listening skills and B1 speaking would be just enough for now. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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