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Repeated passive exposure becomes active?
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Poll Question: Does repeated passive exposure become active?
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
Yes	33	[54.10%]
No	13	[21.31%]
It depends (elaborate)	15	[24.59%]
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fnord
Triglot
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Switzerland
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Message 17 of 20

11 July 2012 at 11:10pm | IP Logged

Voted for "it depends".

I think its effectiveness is correlated mainly to existing skill level and previous language learning experience (the
latter particularly for picking up grammar through passive exposure).
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Serpent
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12 July 2012 at 12:17am | IP Logged

fnord wrote:

previous language learning experience (the latter particularly for picking up grammar through passive exposure).

Very true. An understanding of linguistics also makes a difference, though - we do say sh*t about monoglot linguists, but they have an advantage compared to other monoglots and even some diglots/bilingual people.
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BobbyE
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Message 19 of 20

16 July 2012 at 7:26am | IP Logged

It might not be a popular idea, but actually I think reading/listening is output.
In the middle of LRing I am simultaneously realizing new ways to use words, remembering
where I've heard them before, seeing things about the words, seeing some new and not new
grammar forms and thinking about how I can use them in new contexts. But it's not a
structured process, it is just based on whatever words catch my attention and that I find
interesting. I think the process of thinking through the material is a form of active
learning and is non-verbal output. Sometimes repeated exposure will make a word stick
and my first usage of it will be in conversation with a native but most of the time the
activation of vocabulary is preceded by these mini-realizations mid-listening and
reading.
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ChiaBrain
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Message 20 of 20

17 July 2012 at 12:32am | IP Logged

montmorency wrote:

But what it does seem to be doing is cause TL
words or phrases to suddenly pop into my head while I'm going about my everyday
business (i.e. not in language-learning mode, especially), and in my head, I can hear
the native language speaker on the recording saying the word or phrase

That's EXACTLY what happens to me, and it feels so magical!

I woke up one morning feeling concerned about things I had been procrastinating about and suddenly heard
Michel Thomas exclaim "Oggi! oggi!!!" (Italian for "today").

Another day I sat down in a chair and heard the guy from TY Hindi say "kursi" (Hindi for "chair")

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