iguanamon Pentaglot Senior Member Virgin Islands Speaks: Ladino Joined 5262 days ago 2241 posts - 6731 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, Haitian Creole, Creole (French)
| Message 1 of 18 10 July 2012 at 4:06pm | IP Logged |
What surpirses you the most about this chart taken from internet world stats showing the top 10 internet languages in 2010. For me it would have to be that Portuguese ranks above French, German, Arabic, Russian and Korea.
Edited by iguanamon on 10 July 2012 at 9:47pm
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vermillon Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4678 days ago 602 posts - 1042 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishC2, Mandarin Studies: Japanese, German
| Message 2 of 18 10 July 2012 at 4:23pm | IP Logged |
What surprises me is that you link to a shitty website. Where do these numbers came from? Did they simply take the population of each country speaking German, multiplied it by the internet penetration rate, and published it?
If so, then you're just surprised that Portuguese has a bigger population than French, German, Arabic (what language is that?), Russian and Korean. But that's not language related.
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hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5130 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe
| Message 3 of 18 10 July 2012 at 6:18pm | IP Logged |
vermillon wrote:
What surprises me is that you link to a shitty website. Where do
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They come from Nielsen Online and International Telecommunications Union, among other
sources. Their numbers are as good as any other source out there.
Instead of just calling a website "shitty", maybe a link to something you feel is more
reputable would be in order.
R.
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Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4668 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali
| Message 4 of 18 10 July 2012 at 6:29pm | IP Logged |
Well, in Brazil most people (60%) are poor, and don't have a pc or a smartphone.
They do access the internet in cyber cafés and ''LAN houses'', and most use MSN, Facebook and Twitter, but it's difficult to trace people with no PC or internet bills and put them into official statistics.
Which countries have the most Twitter users per capita?
http://rossdawsonblog.com/weblog/archives/2012/02/which-coun tries-have-the-most-twitter-users-per-capita.html
Edited by Medulin on 10 July 2012 at 6:34pm
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sillygoose1 Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 4636 days ago 566 posts - 814 votes Speaks: English*, Italian, Spanish, French Studies: German, Latin
| Message 5 of 18 10 July 2012 at 8:34pm | IP Logged |
I have never seen Portuguese used by someone online in the 10 years I've been using a computer, and to think it ranks above languages I have seen more frequently, that does indeed surprise me.
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FireViN Diglot Senior Member Brazil missaoitaliano.wordpRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5229 days ago 196 posts - 292 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishC2 Studies: Italian
| Message 6 of 18 10 July 2012 at 9:37pm | IP Logged |
sillygoose1 wrote:
I have never seen Portuguese used by someone online in the 10 years I've been using a computer, and to think it ranks above languages I have seen more frequently, that does indeed surprise me. |
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Sério mesmo? Haha
Brazilians are all over the web nowadays. Actually, the majority of brazilians are monolingual, so it's not that surprising that it's hard for anyone that doesn't speak Portuguese to see the language on the web - brazilians won't show up in English-only websites as frequently as Germans, for example.
I'm surprised by the size of chinese on the web. Yeah, China has a huge population, but wow! I hardly see anything written in Mandarin over the internet, but I guess my argument that "you don't speak the language so you won't see it that much" fits here.
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mrhenrik Triglot Moderator Norway Joined 6079 days ago 482 posts - 658 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, French Personal Language Map
| Message 7 of 18 10 July 2012 at 9:42pm | IP Logged |
Most online games have fairly huge Brazilian communities - there's probably a lot from
those as well.
Other than that no surprises though, or well, Germany's quite active considering how
small it is compared to the rest!
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vermillon Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4678 days ago 602 posts - 1042 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishC2, Mandarin Studies: Japanese, German
| Message 8 of 18 10 July 2012 at 9:59pm | IP Logged |
hrhenry wrote:
vermillon wrote:
What surprises me is that you link to a shitty website. Where do
these numbers came from? |
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They come from Nielsen Online and International Telecommunications Union, among other
sources. Their numbers are as good as any other source out there.
Instead of just calling a website "shitty", maybe a link to something you feel is more
reputable would be in order.
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Sorry, I said shitty because it's void of content. It's merely population statistics combined with internet penetration rate in a few countries: this means that the numbers are completely wrong to represent the "top ten languages used in the web."
If by "language used on the web" you mean the mother tongue of the readers, then it's accurate, but not very interesting to me. What I expect when I see "languages used" is statistics regarding the mass of written text / spoken audio in that language, i.e. language actually "used". Of course, that kind of statistics is not easy to compute, but at least the title would then be correct.
Of course, the other graphs indicate the top number of users, ranked by language, but then there's nothing surprising at all seeing that Portuguese has more speakers than other countries' languages. The problem with this is it doesn't take into account the so many users that use English on the web while it's actually not their mother tongue.
That's why I call it shitty, but perhaps useless would have been more polite and accurate.
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