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| Journeyer Triglot Senior Member United States tristan85.blogspot.c Joined 6871 days ago 946 posts - 1110 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish, German Studies: Sign Language | Message 9 of 26 14 October 2006 at 12:52pm | IP Logged |
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Lengua, which band are you talking about? A band I enjoy is also Finnish, CMX.
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| lengua Senior Member United States polyglottery.wordpre Joined 6687 days ago 549 posts - 595 votes Studies: French, Italian, Spanish, German | Message 10 of 26 14 October 2006 at 3:56pm | IP Logged |
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Hi Journeyer - I was referring to Vartinna :^). They're sort of folkish with a lot of odds and ends thrown in. What's CMX like?
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| Journeyer Triglot Senior Member United States tristan85.blogspot.c Joined 6871 days ago 946 posts - 1110 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, German Studies: Sign Language | Message 11 of 26 14 October 2006 at 8:02pm | IP Logged |
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Yup, I have their CD Vihma. Not all my type, but some of it is quite nice. I actually prefer the remix of their opening song that is played at the end of the CD to the original version. Some of their songs are quite haunting and atmospheric-sounding, like Paivian Nouso Nostajani and Mieleni Alenevi. It's incredible to listen to some of the sounds they make and think that it's an actual language. I think that's what makes Finnish so fun.
CMX is a rock group, I guess one could call it. I don't know really how to describe them...obviously I can't describe what they sing about. My favorite song of theirs is Viersta Viljaa, on the album Vainajala. Some of their music sounds quite...well, meaningful, I guess, for lack of a better word. Since I'm talking about music...Music can perhaps be a way to expose people to more underrepresented languages, because there is a lot of songs that use traditional languages or words. There's a Latin American group called Kusi Taki that uses some languages from South America occasionally, and I imagine there are probably people who record in their own dialects. It might not be enough to really learn a language, but at least it would be making people aware of it. The issue is of course, most people want to understand what they are hearing, and that would counter-act this perhaps. Edited by Journeyer on 14 October 2006 at 8:07pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| unlocked87 Groupie United States Joined 6623 days ago 42 posts - 44 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 12 of 26 14 October 2006 at 8:11pm | IP Logged |
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Elvish. :P
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| fanatic Octoglot Senior Member Australia speedmathematics.com Joined 7149 days ago 1152 posts - 1818 votes Speaks: English*, German, French, Afrikaans, Italian, Spanish, Russian, Dutch Studies: Swedish, Norwegian, Polish, Modern Hebrew, Malay, Mandarin, Esperanto | Message 13 of 26 14 October 2006 at 8:39pm | IP Logged |
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Transparent Language's 101 Languages of the World Language program includes many of the previously mentioned languages. The course is extremely cheap, working out to about 40 cents a language. Each language plays at 4 speeds, from slow to quite fast, and according to my packaging, contains up to 5000 words per language.
Apart from teaching the spoken language with realistic dialogues, they also have games, crosswords, and aids to check your pronunciation. Barry Farber says that the program is a great gift for language enthusiasts. You can try a language at no risk to learn a basic vocabulary and basic conversation. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Captain Haddock Diglot Senior Member Japan kanjicabinet.tumblr. Joined 6771 days ago 2282 posts - 2814 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, Korean, Ancient Greek | Message 14 of 26 15 October 2006 at 12:16am | IP Logged |
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Lengua: good call on Yoruba, I almost listed it with Hausa. Both are widely spoken and would be fascinating to learn.
Clintaroo: learning a language is certainly harder without plentiful teaching materials; but nowadays it should be possible to find a native speaker for most or all of these languages in any big city. Another trick is to find a book in that language for teaching English (or French or whatever), and using it the other way around. The explanations might be hard to read, but everything else is there. Journeyer & Lengua: at the risk of turning this into a Finnish music thread, let me plug my favourite operatic hard rock group, Nightwish, also Finnish. :) Edited by Captain Haddock on 15 October 2006 at 12:17am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Journeyer Triglot Senior Member United States tristan85.blogspot.c Joined 6871 days ago 946 posts - 1110 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, German Studies: Sign Language | Message 15 of 26 15 October 2006 at 2:53am | IP Logged |
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Fanatic, how "complete" is the Transparent 101 Language course? If most of the languages have vocab lists of 5000 or so, and it takes more or less around 5000 to be fluent, or at least basically so, then is it possible to use this course and learn a language "fluently", i.e. to be able to use it with a native speaker and not need to rely on another language other than the one being spoken? How complete is the grammar? Is it fairly comprehensive, or more of an over-view sampling?
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| Zorndyke Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6961 days ago 374 posts - 382 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: Czech | Message 16 of 26 15 October 2006 at 4:29am | IP Logged |
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A big disadvantage of Transparent Language´s 101 Languages of the World is they don´t teach the script, unless your target language uses a Latin based script...
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