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ChristopherB Triglot Senior Member New Zealand Joined 6307 days ago 851 posts - 1074 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English*, German, French
| Message 9 of 33 20 January 2008 at 6:44am | IP Logged |
I'd like to have a conversation, not a grammar lesson. If my speaking skills are too poor for that, I'll hold off until I have enough input. Then I'll practise on my own, and eventually confront a native speaker. No, I don't like being corrected without asking.
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jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6900 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 10 of 33 20 January 2008 at 7:34am | IP Logged |
I also selected "other". In a conversation, I'd rather not be corrected (as it interrupts the flow) - it's not the end of the world if I use the wrong article/verb form/preposition/whatever. When I write emails in German nowadays I don't ask for corrections, and I can't remember having asked previous penpals to correct me either, although some emails have been covered with red ink commenting on my spelling, grammar and sentence structure.
However, I expect (and appreciate) written assignments, translations and so on (related to my studies) to be corrected.
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| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6461 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese
| Message 11 of 33 20 January 2008 at 7:37am | IP Logged |
I think a balance has to be found. Of course I don't want strangers to correct me when I order a coffee or something, as that would feel like they are trying to put me down. I also don't want to hear corrections so often in a conversation that they interrupt the flow, and of course I don't want to alienate my foreign penpals either by asking them to correct all my writings and to give me impromptu grammar lessons.
On the other hand, I know that if I use a foreign language very often without being corrected, especially if I also have little chance to read or hear native-speaker use the language, then it is extremely likely that mistake-ridden patterns will become etched into my brain and later it will take an extra-ordinary amount of effort and contrary input to get rid of them.
So what to do? My solution is to generally ask my foreign friends to correct mistakes whenever the correction won't distract too much from the topic, particularly if they can correct them by just rephrasing their answer or if they notice that I repeatedly make a particular mistake. Then, in order to really get an overview of all the mistakes I tend to make and see how it's said correctly, I also regularly write texts that I would give to somebody with the understanding that he will correct EVERYTHING and also explain why something is wrong and so on. For French I used to be able to give these texts to a teacher at university and for Esperanto I'd give them to a free tutor that came with my online Esperanto course, but now that both aren't available anymore, I have created http://www.corectme.com with the goal of creating a free correction exchange network for every language there. And when I post something there, I will want people to correct ALL my mistakes, and I won't get offended by them doing so either, because that's the whole point of the site.
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| William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6263 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French
| Message 13 of 33 20 January 2008 at 11:20am | IP Logged |
I picked "other". Sometimes it is helpful but sometimes not. I can remember one or two occasions when the corrector seemed to be trying to make me feel stupid or small. Psychology is important in language learning, and being brought to a state where you are afraid of opening your mouth because you might get laughed at is not good.
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| LilleOSC Senior Member United States lille.theoffside.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6682 days ago 545 posts - 546 votes 4 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: French, Arabic (Written)
| Message 16 of 33 21 January 2008 at 9:53am | IP Logged |
Yeah, I do.
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