Michael K. Senior Member United States Joined 5578 days ago 568 posts - 886 votes ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Esperanto
| Message 9 of 22 09 May 2012 at 3:00pm | IP Logged |
Day 2
I did lesson 3 this morning and learned about the first declension.
I did lesson 4 this evening, and I really like this course and Latin.
I may extend this voucher until I complete all 20 lessons in the book. I always study halfway into one of these books and then quit. I actually want to complete one.
Edited by Michael K. on 10 May 2012 at 12:17am
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Michael K. Senior Member United States Joined 5578 days ago 568 posts - 886 votes ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Esperanto
| Message 10 of 22 10 May 2012 at 8:14pm | IP Logged |
Day 3
I did chapter 5 today. It's starting to get more frustrating and difficult, but I'm still having fun with Latin.
I'm already thinking about getting his Ancient Greek book once I'm finished with the Latin book.
Edited by Michael K. on 11 May 2012 at 5:27pm
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Michael K. Senior Member United States Joined 5578 days ago 568 posts - 886 votes ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Esperanto
| Message 11 of 22 11 May 2012 at 5:30pm | IP Logged |
Day 4
I did lessons 6 and 7 today. I'm starting to learn about the 3rd declension, plurals and imperatives.
I'm really enjoying this book, and maybe I can do more later today. Yes, I am going to extend this voucher until I can complete the book. I don't want to just quit in the middle of it.
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Michael K. Senior Member United States Joined 5578 days ago 568 posts - 886 votes ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Esperanto
| Message 12 of 22 12 May 2012 at 11:39pm | IP Logged |
Day 5
I did chapter 8, and learned about the present perfect tense. I think it's the 3rd and 5th conjugations that have unpredicatable principal parts.
I'm still enjoying the course.
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Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 4905 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) Speaks: Russian*
| Message 13 of 22 13 May 2012 at 9:26am | IP Logged |
Michael K. wrote:
Day 5
I did chapter 8, and learned about the present perfect tense. I think it's the 3rd and
5th conjugations that have unpredicatable principal parts.
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What is the fifth conjugation and the present perfect tense in Latin? (the 5 conj. you
men verbs like facio?)
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Michael K. Senior Member United States Joined 5578 days ago 568 posts - 886 votes ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Esperanto
| Message 14 of 22 13 May 2012 at 1:59pm | IP Logged |
For facere, the perfect tense is something like:
feci
fecisti
fecit
fecimus
fecistis
fecerunt
The 3rd and 5th conjugations have unpredictable stems.
I'm pretty sure it's present perfect, but the text just called it a "perfect" tense.
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Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 4905 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) Speaks: Russian*
| Message 15 of 22 13 May 2012 at 5:07pm | IP Logged |
Michael K. wrote:
For facere, the perfect tense is something like:
feci
fecisti
fecit
fecimus
fecistis
fecerunt
The 3rd and 5th conjugations have unpredictable stems.
I'm pretty sure it's present perfect, but the text just called it a "perfect" tense.
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Why are you sure? It is the past tense which is called Perfectum (it is a combination
of old perfectum and Aoristus)
What do you mean by 5th conjugation?
All the verbs can have unpredictable stems, that's why they are learnt in four forms
(facio, feci, factum, facere). For example, do - dedi, venio - veni.
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Michael K. Senior Member United States Joined 5578 days ago 568 posts - 886 votes ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Esperanto
| Message 16 of 22 13 May 2012 at 6:30pm | IP Logged |
OK, maybe I misunderstood something from my book? I'm just repeating what my book said, which is that the conjugation I gave earlier is a model of the perfect tense, and the author translates rexi as "I have ruled" or "I ruled." From what I understand, that is present perfect. Aren't there future perfect and past perfect tenses in Latin? If not, my apologies for calling it present perfect, it's just that in other languages that's what I thought it was called.
The author of my book keeps calling Latin regular, and I can't disagree yet. If it's like the Romance languages, then it is regular, it's just that the irregular parts are very common.
My book gives the sample of capere for the 5th conjugation in the present tense:
capio
capis
capit
capimus
capitis
capiunt
Except for dabbling in TYS Beginner's Latin a while back, I have no previous experience with Latin.
I hope that answers your questions. I don't know enough to answer any more thoroughly.
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