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Ziad Fazah - The Complete Video | ||
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 Keith Diglot Moderator JapanRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6783 days ago 526 posts - 536 votes  1 sounds Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: Mandarin Personal Language Map | Message 17 of 56 29 August 2009 at 1:12pm | IP Logged | ||
One of Ziad's ardent supporters knew him personally and said he received language instruction from Ziad. So a first-hand account is worth something in my book. As for the "long version" of the video, it is still obvious that it was heavily edited before being aired. From what I can see, even though I don't understand Spanish, it does appear that the show did intend to make a laughing stock out of him. Did they show the clips in the same order they were filmed? Probably not. What happened just prior to the Russian man speaking? We don't know since the video just cuts right to that guy speaking. Was Ziad prepared to speak 58 languages? Obviously not. Could one of you tell me why Ziad was suddenly asked in English, "how long have you been in this country?" 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Vlad Trilingual Super Polyglot Senior Member Czechoslovakia foreverastudent.com Joined 6590 days ago 443 posts - 576 votes 2 sounds Speaks: Czech*, Slovak*, Hungarian*, Mandarin, EnglishC2, GermanC2, ItalianC1, Spanish, Russian, Polish, Serbian, French Studies: Persian, Taiwanese, Romanian, Portuguese | Message 18 of 56 29 August 2009 at 2:08pm | IP Logged | ||
A little bit off topic but:
I personally think that at least in the beginning, using this kind of a phonetic transcription can be very useful. Some people's pronunciation would be much better (mine including) if they hadn't received so much influence from the letters that represent slightly different sounds in their native tongues. I don't think it's that bad at all if you try to figure the sound of the word out on your own, write down whatever you hear and receive no influence from the alphabet. My friend in the US wanted me to teach him how to say 'hello, how is it going' in the languages I knew so he could approach people in the store in NYC where we used to work at. I first wrote down the phrases the way they were supposed to be written but we were getting nowhere. Then I told him to listen as I pronounced the phrases and told him to write down whatever he heard. When he read them aloud again his pronunciation was perfectly spot on. You could argue, that a student of the language would get familiar with the pronunciation beforehand, but I really don't think he would achieve such great results just after one reading attempt. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| qklilx Moderator United States Joined 6192 days ago 459 posts - 477 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Korean Personal Language Map | Message 19 of 56 30 August 2009 at 1:12am | IP Logged | ||
Facebook is 5 years old. Anyway the rest of your claim is irrelevant, I think. You got ~4000 points in the past. Now you can't break 3000. There are records of this. There are no records of Fazah ever having known more than a small handful of languages. And our current records show that, in the languages spoken in the clip, he barely has competence in many of the ones he claims to have learned. This wouldn't be too bad a problem if it weren't for the fact that he would frequently claim to know them, and then not even admit being out of practice except for one language, which he incorrectly identified anyway. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Kubelek Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland chomikuj.pl/Kuba_wal Joined 6858 days ago 415 posts - 528 votes Speaks: Polish*, EnglishC2, French, Spanish Studies: German | Message 20 of 56 30 August 2009 at 1:47am | IP Logged | ||
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What about forum members who apparently have talked to him on the phone in several exotic languages? Were all these stories made up too?
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| snoppingasusual Quadrilingual Hexaglot Groupie Lebanon Joined 5573 days ago 49 posts - 65 votes Speaks: Arabic (Egyptian), French*, English*, Arabic (Written)*, Arabic (Levantine)*, Spanish | Message 21 of 56 30 August 2009 at 2:25am | IP Logged | ||
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From what I have read, people apparently spoke to him in Portuguese, Spanish, English, French, Arabic, and German. Maybe he made up the others because he was sure no one will speak to him in those languages? I am really as puzzled as you about this, and I am sorry if I made such a big deal about bashing the guy. Edited by snoppingasusual on 25 September 2009 at 10:20pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Kubelek Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland chomikuj.pl/Kuba_wal Joined 6858 days ago 415 posts - 528 votes Speaks: Polish*, EnglishC2, French, Spanish Studies: German | Message 22 of 56 30 August 2009 at 2:36am | IP Logged | ||
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It wasn't directed to anybody, I sort of mentioned it casually. I haven't been following the long discussion.
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 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6915 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 23 of 56 30 August 2009 at 4:16pm | IP Logged | ||
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Has anybody spoken to Mr Fazah recently? A while ago (two years?) Edwin spoke to him in Mandarin, and I think Bojan and Fyodor also were about to contact him for chats in other languages than English. Any news?
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| trance0 Pentaglot Groupie Slovenia Joined 5756 days ago 52 posts - 78 votes Speaks: Slovenian*, English, German, Croatian, Serbian | Message 24 of 56 02 September 2009 at 9:09am | IP Logged | ||
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As I speak Serbocroat, I can confirm, that Russian and Croatian phrases for "what day of the week is it today?" aren`t at all similar and anyone who really knew basic Croatian and Russian would not mix this up.
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