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Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5851 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map
| Message 41 of 51 10 April 2010 at 5:58pm | IP Logged |
Iversen wrote:
but I don't yet feel as a member of the "Big Esperanto Community". But without it I couldn't find the excellent resources for learning it on the internet. Now I just need some interesting content. So, dear community, please start writing/Speaking in Esperanto about the rearing of goldfish or travelling or UFOs ... anything but becoming the dominant world language, which clearly won't happen.
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Of course you don't feel as a member of the "Big Esperanto Community", because you have never met any Esperantists in person. The community is too abstract for you. But this could change in the future, it depends on your travel strategies.
I have never been an utopist about the role of Esperanto, so it's logical that I also prefer reading texts in Esperanto about my personal fields of interest such as popular science. But I also like to read in Esperanto about activities of the Esperanto movement in the Netherlands, because through personal contacts many names of Dutch Esperantists are wellknown to me.
Fasulye
Edited by Fasulye on 10 April 2010 at 6:02pm
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| tommus Senior Member CanadaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5870 days ago 979 posts - 1688 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Dutch, French, Esperanto, German, Spanish
| Message 43 of 51 10 April 2010 at 7:03pm | IP Logged |
Iversen wrote:
Now I just need some interesting content. So, dear community, please start writing/Speaking in Esperanto about the rearing of goldfish or travelling or UFOs ... anything but becoming the dominant world language, which clearly won't happen.
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I totally agree. The main thing that is missing for me is current and interesting world news. News is a mainstay of my other target languages learning, but Esperanto has a gaping hole when it comes to daily news.
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| tommus Senior Member CanadaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5870 days ago 979 posts - 1688 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Dutch, French, Esperanto, German, Spanish
| Message 44 of 51 10 April 2010 at 7:11pm | IP Logged |
Fasulye wrote:
But I also like to read in Esperanto about activities of the Esperanto movement in the Netherlands |
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Following on the same theme as my post above; this further reinforces the points Iversen made, and my comments about lack of news. If you Google "Esperanto" and "news", you get news about the Esperanto movement, not news about the world. News about the Esperanto movement makes Esperanto an interesting hobby; news about the world, written in Esperanto, would make it a more legitimate world language.
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Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5851 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map
| Message 45 of 51 10 April 2010 at 9:38pm | IP Logged |
What Iversen is looking for in Esperanto is a magazine with all kinds of news (also scientific) like "Ephemeris" for Latin, I understand. Also tommus is looking for such a news magazine.
There is a European news magazine called "MONATO" in Esperanto, it is printed in Belgium (Flanders).
Here is the website of "MONATO":
http://esperanto.be/fel/mon/
http://www.monato.net
It may be difficult to find in the internet, if someone doesn't know the title of the magazine to search.
I was a subscriber of the paper version of this magazine for some years and I can recommend to read some articles as they cover a variety of international oriented news topics.
NB: Unfortunately on the website of "MONATO" the articles are abbreviated for people reading them without subscription.
Fasulye
Edited by Fasulye on 10 April 2010 at 10:40pm
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Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6707 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map
| Message 46 of 51 11 April 2010 at 5:58pm | IP Logged |
I had not found 'Monato' by myself when searching for content on the internet, and it doesn't have much scientific or historical content. But for articles about contemporay society and culture it is quite interesting, and I have added it to my favorites. In fact it has already taught me a few words, such as "poŝtelefono" (mobile phone, literally 'pocket telephone'). My Esperanto dictionaries are so old that they were printed before mobile phones were invented.
And looking through my favorites I found http://www.tvbialystok.pl/tvesperanto/programy. The lessons to the right are outright irritating because at least a third of the clip lenght is wasted on a musical introduction. The numerated 'partoj' are OK. They do speak Polish in the background, which is irritating, but I can tooth-gnashingly live with it because I don't understand Polish (...yet).
Edited by Iversen on 11 April 2010 at 6:02pm
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Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5851 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map
| Message 47 of 51 11 April 2010 at 6:12pm | IP Logged |
Indeed, Monato is not very orientated towards Natural Sciences, as far as I remember the contents from the 1990s, when I was a subscriber and a reader of this magazine. It's more a general, internationally oriented news magazine. My interest in Natural Sciences has developed later, so I didn't miss such topics in the 1990s.
I think to develop fluent reading skills and a broad vocabulary in Esperanto, reading Monato regularly would be an excellent training.
Fasulye
Edited by Fasulye on 11 April 2010 at 6:20pm
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| Kyrie Senior Member United States clandestein.deviantaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5733 days ago 207 posts - 231 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Portuguese
| Message 48 of 51 11 April 2010 at 6:44pm | IP Logged |
I, myself, learn languages so that when I visit a country/area that speaks that language I can communicate with the natives. Esperanto has no native homeland, besides the basement of Zamenhof. This man-made language has no culture, no homeland, and hardly any speakers; it isn't a language to me, really. Rather, it's a mere man-made code like Morse and HTML. True, its etymologies can be traced back to real languages like Latin and Greek... but the mere fact that the language itself was assembled by a single individual makes it a 'code.'
There's no point learning this 'language' unless you're a bored language lover just like the guy who wrote it. After all, it was made primarily to become the official international language. But that obviously didn't work out, therefor Esperanto is basically an unsuccessful project.
Edited by Kyrie on 11 April 2010 at 6:46pm
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