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| Emme Triglot Senior Member Italy Joined 5345 days ago 980 posts - 1594 votes  Speaks: Italian*, English, German Studies: Russian, Swedish, French | Message 257 of 360 31 December 2013 at 12:23am | IP Logged | ||
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@Sabrina VG
Thank you! Good luck with your language goals too! @fabriciocarraro Thanks! I really need to get serious about Russian if I want to see results, but sometimes it’s just easier to dabble a little aimlessly as I did this year. Good luck with Japanese: you’ve got no idea how tempted I am to follow in your and Josquin’s steps and add it to the languages I study. @jeff_lindqvist Thank you so much! See you on our new Scandinavian team. It’s always good to have a Swede there!
OCD much? ;-) But I know you meant it as a compliment, so thank you! @Stelle ¡Gracias! And I’m looking forward to getting to know you and all the other Lobos and following the progress of the team. --- Happy New Year! Gott nytt år! Jag önskar er alla ett lyckosamt 2014! Hoppas det blir ett riktigt bra år. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5332 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 258 of 360 31 December 2013 at 1:37am | IP Logged | ||
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You have done an amazing job, and I am really proud of you. Where in Assimil Russian did you get stuck? I
got stuck around lesson 50, perhaps we could struggle through the rest together :-) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5007 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 259 of 360 31 December 2013 at 5:02pm | IP Logged | ||
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You have been an awesome source of inspiration during the whole year 2013! Your Swedish success is awesome and don't be too hard on yourself for the others. You seem to have done a fair chunk of German input and that can't go without consequences ;-)
Thanks and I'm looking forward to reading you in 2014 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Emme Triglot Senior Member Italy Joined 5345 days ago 980 posts - 1594 votes Speaks: Italian*, English, German Studies: Russian, Swedish, French | Message 260 of 360 31 December 2013 at 5:57pm | IP Logged | ||
Thank you, Cavesa, you’re too kind! I’m looking forward to your Swedish adventure too. We can cheer us on when we get stuck or we lose confidence, and that’s certainly the best thing of doing the TAC together (and in two teams to boot!).
That would be great! But I thought we had different editions (or do you mean we may share the technique more than the actual lessons?) I believe you have been using the latest English edition, but I was using the 70-lesson Il nuovo russo senza sforzo, Italian edition of Le Nouveau Russe sans peine by Vladimir Dronov, Vladimir Matchabelli and Françoise Gallais. The copyright on the CDs (and so presumably the year of publication of the first edition in French) is 1998. The first lesson starts with: Добрый день! Добрый день! Как дела? Хорошо! Бы куда? What about yours? Edited by Emme on 31 December 2013 at 5:58pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| geoffw Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 4686 days ago 1134 posts - 1865 votes Speaks: English*, German, Yiddish Studies: Modern Hebrew, French, Dutch, Italian, Russian | Message 261 of 360 31 December 2013 at 6:05pm | IP Logged | ||
I am using the most recent English version, and this does NOT match the first lesson. FWIW, I made it through 30- some lessons in the 6WC this year, and I plan to start pushing forward again with Assimil sometime in the next couple of months. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Emme Triglot Senior Member Italy Joined 5345 days ago 980 posts - 1594 votes Speaks: Italian*, English, German Studies: Russian, Swedish, French | Message 262 of 360 31 December 2013 at 6:42pm | IP Logged | ||
Yes, I think there was another edition published around 2010. If I’m not mistaken the author is Victoria Melnikova-Suchet. And from what I’ve heard about it, the learning curve is less steep than in the 70-lesson one. But I’m always interested in reading other opinions, in case I decide to buy it or to track it down through an interlibrary loan. As you’ve worked with it for a while already, how do you like it so far? Edited by Emme on 31 December 2013 at 6:43pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| geoffw Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 4686 days ago 1134 posts - 1865 votes Speaks: English*, German, Yiddish Studies: Modern Hebrew, French, Dutch, Italian, Russian | Message 263 of 360 31 December 2013 at 7:09pm | IP Logged | ||
I think it's pretty well done. I've previously done New French With Ease, which was great, and Assimil Italian, which worked, but was not so great, IMO. This course seems well-edited, and the dialogues certainly are entertaining. As is usual for Assimil, the treatment of grammar is light, but that's fine by me. I've studied Russian grammar before, and there are all the tables you need in a reference section in the back. The pace of the speakers is pretty slow to start, but ramps up to a reasonable level. As I recall, the thick consonant clusters were very hard for me to get used to back when I first started learning Russian with Pimsleur, so this may be a good thing that it starts out pretty slow. By my count the total vocabulary introduced is about 1000 items, and the vocabulary was the hardest part for me. With Romance languages, Assimil was "easy" because most words were cognates from at least one of English, German, or Latin, so I had little trouble assimilating the vocabulary. With Russian, I would listen to the dialogues over and over in addition to my regular routine, and still wouldn't really internalize some words very well. That's why I've shifted strategy for now to extensive reading and Anki learning, and my hope is that Assimil will be easier once I have gotten used to more of the basic vocabulary from seeing it "in the wild." I just am not learning the words without concentrating on them and using memory tricks (see, e.g., the Barry Farber book). I assume that if you got as far as you did that Cyrillic is no longer a problem for you. Having learned Cyrillic over 20 years ago, I skipped everything relating to teaching the alphabet entirely, so I can't comment on how well that was done or how they make the transition from romanized pronunciation aids to reading the Cyrillic directly. Anyone else with experience learning Cyrillic from Assimil should chime in here. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5164 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 264 of 360 01 January 2014 at 3:36pm | IP Logged | ||
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Well-done, Emme! I'm really happy about your progress! You overcame that difficult period
with Russian, when we realize it isn't going to be a walk in the park, and you kept consistency with Swedish too! Looking forward to share a lot in 2014. I hope you can get hold of lots of fun stuff for your German challenges, as you already speak it, and it can work as both a leisure time and a motivation booster for other languages. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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