Akao aka FailArtist Senior Member United States Joined 5340 days ago 315 posts - 347 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Mandarin, Toki Pona
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Other than the "universal language" or "easiest language possible" tags that come with
it, what do you think of the languages aspect?
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GREGORG4000 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5527 days ago 307 posts - 479 votes Speaks: English*, Finnish Studies: Japanese, Korean, Amharic, French
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It sounds horrible, and the politics that are so often shipped with it are annoying. Otherwise, cool
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Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6443 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese
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Akao wrote:
Other than the "universal language" or "easiest language possible" tags that come with
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GREGORG4000 wrote:
It sounds horrible, and the politics that are so often shipped with it are annoying. Otherwise, cool |
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I'm kind of at a loss as to which politics you think are often shipped with it (I can think of several potential sets, all of which are hotly disagreed with by many Esperanto speakers). The sound is a matter of taste, I suppose; I rather like it.
I find it to be a language beautifully suited for poetry. At any given level of study short of full mastery, it allows more freedom, grace, and nuance in expression than any other language I'm aware of; at that level, it strikes me as equal. Bear in mind that, like other languages, if a particular topic is really only fully developed in one language, it's possible but clumsier to talk about it in other languages.
Its regularity seriously reduces the time it takes to avoid making a lot of errors which really are grating to listen to. This shouldn't be overstated, though - it's perfectly possible to make horrible-sounding mistakes in Esperanto. I still make some.
It's not the easiest language possible; it is significantly easier than languages which weren't designed with that as a goal. It does have quite a few quirks.
Subjectively, I consider it a great deal of fun.
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Smart Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 5343 days ago 352 posts - 398 votes Speaks: Spanish, English*, Latin, French Studies: German
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I would rather learn Macedonian or Ukranian than learn Esperanto. This is to say a lot since I have almost no plans to learn either of these languages, but at least they have a nation backing them and a rich culture/identity/etc.
Esperanto sounds horrible. That's just a fact.
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Saif Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5616 days ago 122 posts - 208 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Levantine)*, French
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Smart wrote:
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How is that a fact?
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mrhenrik Triglot Moderator Norway Joined 6083 days ago 482 posts - 658 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, French Personal Language Map
| Message 6 of 34 12 June 2010 at 2:33pm | IP Logged |
There's a thin line between encouraging discussion and picking a fight guys.. make sure
you're on the discussion side of it please. ;p
I'm not sure what you mean with the languages aspect Akao, but I guess I have the same
thoughts on Esperanto as I have with any other language which exists but doesn't capture
my interest to a large extent. Perhaps one day it'll intrigue me more and I'll want to
learn it, in which case I'll be glad it's easier to learn.
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Captain Haddock Diglot Senior Member Japan kanjicabinet.tumblr. Joined 6772 days ago 2282 posts - 2814 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, Korean, Ancient Greek
| Message 7 of 34 12 June 2010 at 4:36pm | IP Logged |
While many people seem drawn to the idea of an artificial auxiliary language, I tend to share Smart's opinion. The
reasons I learn languages would prompt me to put even very rare natural languages before Esperanto. If
Esperanto ever developed a permanent culture and society of fluent speakers, I'd be interested, but that probably
won't happen during my lifetime.
On the other hand, if I had a magic wand, I would use it to give Esperanto the position and prestige English has, so
that we'd all be on an even footing and be more encouraged to learn languages.
Edited by Captain Haddock on 12 June 2010 at 4:38pm
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Splog Diglot Senior Member Czech Republic anthonylauder.c Joined 5673 days ago 1062 posts - 3263 votes Speaks: English*, Czech Studies: Mandarin
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Smart wrote:
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Personally, I don't like the way it sounds either. However, I remember the introduction to the Teach Yourself Esperanto course claiming it to be one of the most wonderful sounding languages in the world. So, opinions are divided.
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