Bjorn Diglot Senior Member Norway Joined 4870 days ago 244 posts - 286 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English Studies: German, French
| Message 17 of 42 19 February 2012 at 9:42pm | IP Logged |
Adrean wrote:
French
I met somebody who has spent very little time in France yet spoke
almost like a native with a workable accent. He told me it was almost exclusively from
reading. He also made it clear that it was lots and lots of work all the time which has
got him to his level.
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Interesting, did he use audiobook also (LR) or did he only read books?
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Adrean TAC 2010 Winner Senior Member France adrean83.wordpress.c Joined 6170 days ago 348 posts - 411 votes Speaks: FrenchC1
| Message 18 of 42 03 March 2012 at 1:47am | IP Logged |
@Bjorn - I didn't mention LR to him or audiobooks. If I do manage to catch him again I
would like to find out just for my information.
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French
I'm really excited to tackle The Green Ray (Le Rayon Vert) this month as part of the
Freustch team (if there are any of us left). I'm going to give it a listen through the
first time as the audiobook is only 7 hours. I may listen a second time or if I can
find the audio in German (highly unlikely) I will Listen-Read the book. I hope that my
team mates can also enjoy the book and share ideas about how we approached learning the
book and what we got out of it. Here's hoping.
Why this book ? It's one of those books which has been sitting in my mind as something
I must do. I watched a movie of the same name which is not based on the story but
references the book and they have a discussion about the book during the movie. I'm
also a fan of Jules Verne and I've read several of his books (he wrote The Green Ray by
the way). I believe some peeps on this forum enjoy this book very much and it's been
name dropped a few times. Most of all it's a bit of mystery to me.....
During the past couple of weeks I've seen a few French films and listened to a few
podcasts.
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German
Sometimes as I study German I think that it will be next to impossible to learn this
language. There are things that blow my mind. Sentence structures and declining
thingys. I have to stop for 10 seconds to arrange things in my head and still get it
wrong. For the time being I will content myself to simply understanding the Assimil
lessons and stumbling my way through Pimsleur lessons.
I'm up to lesson 66 in Assimil and Lesson 3 of Pimsleur German Plus.
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ReQuest Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 5034 days ago 200 posts - 228 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, German, French Studies: Spanish
| Message 19 of 42 03 March 2012 at 9:22am | IP Logged |
Is pimsleur German any good? Or is it more for beginners?
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Adrean TAC 2010 Winner Senior Member France adrean83.wordpress.c Joined 6170 days ago 348 posts - 411 votes Speaks: FrenchC1
| Message 20 of 42 06 March 2012 at 12:56pm | IP Logged |
@Request Thanks for your question. I did Pimsleur when I was learning French 2 or 3
times through. I learned it in conjunction with Michel Thomas and other methods I find
it challenging when learning German. I still would very much consider myself a beginner
though. I've finished the three parts and now I'm onto Pimsleur Plus. I've found before
bed or 15 minutes here or there whilst commuting to be most efficient for me. Some
lessons I nail others I can't get any answers out in time.
German
I'm pretty disappointed with how my German classes are progressing. Speaking is
definitely not a priority. In fact I'm slightly ashamed to say something aloud if I
know something. We do lots of handouts in class which involve flicking through the
dictionary for unknown vocabulary. I think that this is not an effective method.
Communicating with other classmates in German is almost impossible and I think they and
I are slightly ashamed to show off our skillz for whatever reason.
I think for next week (if I remember) I will try to talk as much in German as possible
even if the others do not. What's the worst that could happen ...
French
I'm not so much powering along as steadily progressing through Le Rayon Vert. I seem to
have so many pressing things to get to in real life besides languages. I'm up to
chapter 6 just after a couple of days. I've decided just to listen to the book so I can
listen on the go or before bed or whilst cleaning up. (I can't actually concentrate
when writing posts such as this).
I'm mostly enjoying finally returning to listening to a book in French. I did SOO many
hours a few years ago. Having others in my team join me has given me that extra
motivation.
Edited by Adrean on 07 March 2012 at 8:56am
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Adrean TAC 2010 Winner Senior Member France adrean83.wordpress.c Joined 6170 days ago 348 posts - 411 votes Speaks: FrenchC1
| Message 21 of 42 22 March 2012 at 12:17pm | IP Logged |
French
Almost to the end of 'Le Rayon Vert'. Just one or two chapters left to listen to. How
are my team mates going ? What have you thought about the book overall and has it been
a worthwhile learning exercise?
My method was pretty much just to listen to the book. I've realised that I have to
maintain concentration much more then if it had been read in English. Also, if I tried
to do two things at once, such as surf the internet, the audiobook instantly became
meaningless noise, therefore I quickly gave up on 'multitasking'. I found housework was
ideal for enjoying the audiobook as concentration on the story could be maintained and
at the same time I could move around and therefore some 'study anxiety' disappeared.
At one point during listening I discovered that a massive portion of vocabulary I was
guessing from context. Much of the vocabulary I would recognize upon hearing but I
probably wouldn't find the words if I was in a conversation and subsequently do not
belong to my 'active vocabulary'.
Overall the audiobook was of fantastic quality. Not a single fault, not a single
stumble on a word. The reader read steadily, clearly and appropriately to the text.
Self-made Internet audiobooks have certainly come a long way since my first few
downloaded from Librivox. I cannot recommend the quality of the audiobooks on
www.litteratureaudio.com enough. I don't have any hesitations as I'm sure they are as
good as professionaly recorded audiobooks.
German
Real life has put a crashing halt to German study the last couple of weeks. I attended
a class but that's about it. I must move along with Assimil.
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Bjorn Diglot Senior Member Norway Joined 4870 days ago 244 posts - 286 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English Studies: German, French
| Message 22 of 42 22 March 2012 at 12:47pm | IP Logged |
Only done 2 chapters of 'Le Rayon Vert' so far. But it's not end of the month yet :-)
I agree with you, it's a good audiobook.
Do you know what kind of dialect it is? South France?
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Adrean TAC 2010 Winner Senior Member France adrean83.wordpress.c Joined 6170 days ago 348 posts - 411 votes Speaks: FrenchC1
| Message 23 of 42 29 March 2012 at 11:32am | IP Logged |
French
I found a great 2shYlHQY3LfILBuDYqQ&index=9&feature=plcp">video of Luca and Steve
Kaufmen speaking in French about language learning. Luca has a great level and accent.
They also made a video in German.
I have had a confirmation that my application has been received for a Teachers
Assistant role in France. Fingers crossed that all goes well and I may just be there in
August.
I finished listening to 'Le Rayon Vert' which was a kind of goal for March.
German
Very little going on. Evening class finished.
Edited by Adrean on 29 March 2012 at 11:36am
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Bjorn Diglot Senior Member Norway Joined 4870 days ago 244 posts - 286 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English Studies: German, French
| Message 24 of 42 29 March 2012 at 6:57pm | IP Logged |
I hope you get the job in France. Good luck!
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