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JiEunNinja Diglot Groupie United States Joined 4203 days ago 64 posts - 115 votes Speaks: English*, Korean Studies: Spanish, Japanese
| Message 9 of 25 19 August 2013 at 4:26am | IP Logged |
I completely agree. There are so many amazing musicians around the world and it's sad
they don't get more recognition because they aren't English speaking. There's a Korean
singer named Lee Hi. She has an AMAZING voice. Even if you don't understand the lyrics,
you can still feel the emotions in her voice. I have no idea why more people don't know
about her outside of the Asian community.
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| caam_imt Triglot Senior Member Mexico Joined 4861 days ago 232 posts - 357 votes Speaks: Spanish*, EnglishC2, Finnish Studies: German, Swedish
| Message 10 of 25 19 August 2013 at 1:32pm | IP Logged |
I suppose it all boils down to being marketable in America. There are very few bands
who take the risk of singing in their mother tongue, perhaps due to fear of breaking
some sort of unwritten rule in the music industry, which tells that English is the
language to go if money is to be seen. Usually most music markets are smaller than the
US one (perhaps Latin America comes close in size).
It doesn't seem to me that metal/hard rock is so well received in China, India, the
Middle-East and Africa, or at least it looks like that from my skewed perspective. So
the only places left are Europe and the Americas. Since European countries are so
small, I guess they see it as a necessity. Plus there is the "we speak so good English"
attitude from some of those countries, and I have even heard that some people believe
English suits certain genres better than other languages. I applaud those bands that
have the nerve to sing in their mother tongues, since Globalization and the business
world make it harder day by day.
And for the OP, check this out:
Opeth - Den ständiga resan
This is one of my favorite bands, but don't listen to their other songs, they are (sort
of) death metal and in English :). And this is a cover from Marie Fredriksson.
This one is for Cavesa:
Falconer - Grimborg
Edited by caam_imt on 19 August 2013 at 1:51pm
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| anime Triglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6359 days ago 161 posts - 207 votes Speaks: Spanish, Swedish*, English Studies: German, Portuguese, French, Russian
| Message 11 of 25 19 August 2013 at 4:42pm | IP Logged |
Thanks for the link to Säkert!, especially liked this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWUmyXknwpc
"Vi kommer att dö samtidigt"
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| Via Diva Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation last.fm/user/viadivaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4233 days ago 1109 posts - 1427 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German, Italian, French, Swedish, Esperanto, Czech, Greek
| Message 12 of 25 19 August 2013 at 5:40pm | IP Logged |
caam_imt wrote:
And for the OP, check this out:
Opeth - Den ständiga resan
This is one of my favorite bands, but don't listen to their other songs, they are (sort
of) death metal and in English :). And this is a cover from Marie Fredriksson. |
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I wanted to mention it too, but something was holding me from that...
JiEunNinja, speaking about Opeth - yeah, English, but Mikael Åkerfeldt is... I wanted to say "more than human" and then remembered how he acts on the stage :D
Anyway, do not think thaat Opeth is death growls only if you'll ever need to listen to English-languaged music. Great music, awesome lyrics, etc...
P.S. I think that their "Still Life" is best album ever.
P.P.S. I like folk song "Herr Mannelig", but it has many different versions, so it's for you to choose one :)
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| JiEunNinja Diglot Groupie United States Joined 4203 days ago 64 posts - 115 votes Speaks: English*, Korean Studies: Spanish, Japanese
| Message 13 of 25 19 August 2013 at 5:41pm | IP Logged |
caam_imt wrote:
I suppose it all boils down to being marketable in America. There are
very few bands who take the risk of singing in their mother tongue, perhaps due to fear
of breaking some sort of unwritten rule in the music industry, which tells that English
is the language to go if money is to be seen. [/URL] |
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Yeah. It's sad because a lot of the foreign artists I listen to have dreams of gaining
popularity in the US. I have no idea why. Our pop music is TERRIBLE and English-centric
media is really just annoying. It sort of reminds me of when PSY got a lot of air time
in the States. People kept calling him "the most popular Korean artist." Actually, he
wasn't all that popular before, and he still actually isn't. Just a lot of Americans
know who he is. There are TONS more Korean artists much more influential than he. It's
just sad to me because people close themselves off from really great music just because
it isn't in English.
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| ScottScheule Diglot Senior Member United States scheule.blogspot.com Joined 5227 days ago 645 posts - 1176 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Latin, Hungarian, Biblical Hebrew, Old English, Russian, Swedish, German, Italian, French
| Message 14 of 25 19 August 2013 at 11:12pm | IP Logged |
I've been listening to Swedish music lately. I'll copy my notes here (every band or individual I entered I thought was worth listening to):
Sonja Aldén (not bad)
Alice Babs (great)
Boot (I don’t normally like dance music, but this is good stuff, and even English is good)
Lars Demian (klezmerish)
Bob Hund (all pretty good stuff)
Di Leva (poppy, not great)
Dungen
Ebba Forsberg (great)
Frifot (folk, nice)
Per Gessle (good)
John Hedin (good, but all instrumental)
Hedningarna (very interesting, electric folk)
Hel
Håkan Hellström (not bad, better than Di Leva)
Patrik Isaksson (pretty good)
Olov Johannson (folk, like real folk, good)
Peter Jöback (easy listening, some cheese, some not bad, good Cohen rendition)
Lasse Lindh (some albums in Swedish, not bad, easy)
Kent
Kleerup (some weird ass shit)
Kalle Moraeus (nice)
Charlotte Perrelli (not bad)
Lena Philipsson (some decent pop)
Susanne Rosenberg (some truly wonderful folk)
Gyllene Tider (nice, poppy rock)
Mikael Wiehe (pleasant enough, some weird shit too)
Lena Willemark (folk, and really great, some avant garde and jazz influence)
Monica Zetterlund (great jazz)
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| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5008 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian
| Message 15 of 25 20 August 2013 at 2:55pm | IP Logged |
That is an awesome list, thanks!
Well, we all know that is the truth. English makes everything more marketable when it comes to music. And some bands prefer it because it is easier to make lyrics in it thanks to limited amount of rime endings in comparison with some languages. For example Nightwish, if I remember correctly, statted this is one of the reasons why only few of their songs are in Finnish (so beautiful!) sometimes somewhere.
I was recently interested in Chinese popular music. There are only a few bands playing harder rock or such things. But some use Mandarin or Cantonese. Most play their variant of Jpop (Cpop?), which is quite horrible and obviously the most cool thing a band can do is to add at least a few English words among their language. Sad but true. However, I listened to some more traditional music (or rather our time music developed from the traditional) and it sounds totally awesome.
You know, I think people should be more open to experiments. I wouldn't call myself the person with the widest tastes and the best knowledge of all genres or alternatives. But it is just great to find something new (or old :-) ) that is different and that I like from time to time. I wonder why most people don't do that. With youtube, it is extremely easy to just wonder across time and space.
I just accidentally found Eluveitie who sings in dead Gaulish or what is correct name of the language (shame on me for not knowing) and it sounds totally awesome!
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| JiEunNinja Diglot Groupie United States Joined 4203 days ago 64 posts - 115 votes Speaks: English*, Korean Studies: Spanish, Japanese
| Message 16 of 25 20 August 2013 at 7:35pm | IP Logged |
Cavesa wrote:
That is an awesome list, thanks!
I was recently interested in Chinese popular music. There are only a few bands playing
harder rock or such things. But some use Mandarin or Cantonese. Most play their variant
of Jpop (Cpop?), which is quite horrible and obviously the most cool thing a band can do
is to add at least a few English words among their language. Sad but true. |
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I remember reading awhile ago that Rock music in certain languages (i.e Japanese) took a
longer time to evolve because they couldn't fit the language into the genre in a correct
way. Of course, I know nothing about music so I don't really know, but yeah. I heard some
genres make the language sound a bit strange.
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