caam_imt Triglot Senior Member Mexico Joined 4861 days ago 232 posts - 357 votes Speaks: Spanish*, EnglishC2, Finnish Studies: German, Swedish
| Message 17 of 25 20 August 2013 at 8:30pm | IP Logged |
I saw a TV program not so long ago where it was said that Finnish had its own meter
(poetry) and rhythm, for example in the national epic Kalevala. This meter was designed
to fit the Finnish language, but it didn't become popular in songs or anything like
that. Instead, a Germanic meter (Swedish influence)became popular and it is still used
nowadays. So I guess there is some truth in it that some languages might sound weird if
forced to fit into predetermined "boxes" which happen to be tailored for English or
other similar languages.
BUT I still think it is rather subjective, even if a language is not using an optimal
system it might still produce good enough results for certain people, as it is always a
matter of opinion. That being said, I cannot picture in my mind how Chinese is supposed
to sound if all tones are taken into account when being sung. Are the tones respected
in folk music or other kind of style? it seems that in pop or other modern (western?)
music the tones are just not there.
Here's another song:
Nordman - Vandraren
Edited by caam_imt on 20 August 2013 at 8:53pm
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Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5008 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian
| Message 18 of 25 20 August 2013 at 9:40pm | IP Logged |
They are not taken into account. No matter the genre, there are no tones in Chinese languages when sung.
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tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4706 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 19 of 25 21 August 2013 at 9:42am | IP Logged |
Cavesa wrote:
I just accidentally found Eluveitie who sings in dead Gaulish or what is correct name
of
the language (shame on me for not knowing) and it sounds totally awesome! |
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Old Gaulish, it is the ancestor of modern Breton and Welsh. The language is only
scarcely
documented, so they hire celtologists and other scientists to reconstruct possible
pronunciations for the shards of text (generally genuine archeological remnants) that
are used.
BTW, as far as I know, their singer speaks (Swiss) German, English and French. And he
at least knows about gwerz (traditional Breton folk songs) :)
Edited by tarvos on 21 August 2013 at 9:43am
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Henkkles Triglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4252 days ago 544 posts - 1141 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, Swedish Studies: Russian
| Message 20 of 25 21 August 2013 at 2:44pm | IP Logged |
JiEunNinja wrote:
Any genre works except for metal and rap. |
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:c
I can not recommend Cornelis Vreeswijk enough because the pronunciation is so clear.
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JiEunNinja Diglot Groupie United States Joined 4203 days ago 64 posts - 115 votes Speaks: English*, Korean Studies: Spanish, Japanese
| Message 21 of 25 21 August 2013 at 5:25pm | IP Logged |
Henkkles wrote:
JiEunNinja wrote:
Any genre works except for metal and rap. |
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:c
I can not recommend Cornelis
Vreeswijk enough because the pronunciation is so clear. |
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Thanks! We'll give it a try~^^
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anime Triglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6359 days ago 161 posts - 207 votes Speaks: Spanish, Swedish*, English Studies: German, Portuguese, French, Russian
| Message 22 of 25 05 September 2013 at 8:01pm | IP Logged |
I just had to add Petra Marklund (aka September) who IMO has an extremly cool and unique voice. Her last
album Inferno is in Swedish and has some excellent tracks, this being my favorite:
Petra Marklund - Händerna
mot Himlen
Edited by anime on 05 September 2013 at 8:04pm
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sans-serif Tetraglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4558 days ago 298 posts - 470 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, German, Swedish Studies: Danish
| Message 23 of 25 05 September 2013 at 8:17pm | IP Logged |
@anime:
Seconded! And I'm also quite fond of her accent, I must admit. Too bad her previous albums are all in English.
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anime Triglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6359 days ago 161 posts - 207 votes Speaks: Spanish, Swedish*, English Studies: German, Portuguese, French, Russian
| Message 24 of 25 05 September 2013 at 8:24pm | IP Logged |
Yeah she has a really nice Stockholm accent, not too posh
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