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Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5164 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian
| Message 65 of 204 02 January 2014 at 6:11pm | IP Logged |
E aí, Exploradores! Preparados para mais um ano de batalhas lingüísticas?
Acabei de chegar da Chapada Diamantina. É uma região rica em história e em paisagens, e
fica no coração da Bahia. Fiz alguns bons passeios, e outros não foram possíveis, mas no
geral a viagem valeu muito a pena. Fiquei hospedado na cidade de Lençóis. Se quiserem,
posso contar mais detalhes. Enquanto isso, fica a sugestão de atividade:
Suggested assignement: do a short search in Portuguese about Chapada Diamantina
and write a few lines about why you think it is worth (or not) visiting Chapada
Diamantina.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6595 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 66 of 204 05 January 2014 at 8:54pm | IP Logged |
Descansa em paz, Eusébio...
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| ennime Tetraglot Senior Member South Africa universityofbrokengl Joined 5902 days ago 397 posts - 507 votes Speaks: English, Dutch*, Esperanto, Afrikaans Studies: Xhosa, French, Korean, Portuguese, Zulu
| Message 67 of 204 06 January 2014 at 4:10pm | IP Logged |
Expugnator wrote:
E aí, Exploradores! Preparados para mais um ano de batalhas lingüísticas?
Acabei de chegar da Chapada Diamantina. É uma região rica em história e em paisagens, e
fica no coração da Bahia. Fiz alguns bons passeios, e outros não foram possíveis, mas no
geral a viagem valeu muito a pena. Fiquei hospedado na cidade de Lençóis. Se quiserem,
posso contar mais detalhes. Enquanto isso, fica a sugestão de atividade:
Suggested assignement: do a short search in Portuguese about Chapada Diamantina
and write a few lines about why you think it is worth (or not) visiting Chapada
Diamantina. |
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a great assignment! now I've googled the Chapadad Diamantina, but I haven't gotten to writing about it in portuguese yet
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| ennime Tetraglot Senior Member South Africa universityofbrokengl Joined 5902 days ago 397 posts - 507 votes Speaks: English, Dutch*, Esperanto, Afrikaans Studies: Xhosa, French, Korean, Portuguese, Zulu
| Message 68 of 204 08 January 2014 at 9:59pm | IP Logged |
ennime wrote:
Expugnator wrote:
E aí, Exploradores! Preparados para mais um ano de batalhas lingüísticas?
Acabei de chegar da Chapada Diamantina. É uma região rica em história e em paisagens, e
fica no coração da Bahia. Fiz alguns bons passeios, e outros não foram possíveis, mas no
geral a viagem valeu muito a pena. Fiquei hospedado na cidade de Lençóis. Se quiserem,
posso contar mais detalhes. Enquanto isso, fica a sugestão de atividade:
Suggested assignement: do a short search in Portuguese about Chapada Diamantina
and write a few lines about why you think it is worth (or not) visiting Chapada
Diamantina. |
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a great assignment! now I've googled the Chapadad Diamantina, but I haven't gotten to writing about it in portuguese yet |
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Alright, here is three sentence attempt in my very basic Portuguese:
Chapada Diamantina é um parque nacional no Brasil, no estado de Bahia. Eu quer visita o parque por que eu amo natureza. Também eu amo caminhar.
A quick question with this, in term of say "in" how does one know to differentiate between na/no and em, and other words like it? Is there a rule to follow? Why is it "em Londres" but "no Brasil"?
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| Luso Hexaglot Senior Member Portugal Joined 6059 days ago 819 posts - 1812 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, French, EnglishC2, GermanB1, Italian, Spanish Studies: Sanskrit, Arabic (classical)
| Message 69 of 204 08 January 2014 at 11:49pm | IP Logged |
ennime wrote:
Alright, here is three sentence attempt in my very basic Portuguese:
Chapada Diamantina é um parque nacional no Brasil, no estado da Bahia. Eu quero visitar o parque por que (eu amo) gosto da natureza. Também (eu amo) gosto de caminhar.
A quick question with this, in term of say "in" how does one know to differentiate between na/no and em, and other words like it? Is there a rule to follow? Why is it "em Londres" but "no Brasil"? |
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Let me address this one: you have to see things in context. When there's some sort of significance, you have to use the corresponding article:
A terra do pau-brasil => o pau-brasil => o Brasil;
A terra onde os portugueses chegaram em 1 de janeiro de 1502 e pensaram tratar-se dum rio => o Rio de Janeiro;
Uma terra em Portugal que era um porto romano => o Porto;
Uma baía onde Pedro Álvares Cabral aportou em 1500 => a Bahia (old Portuguese);
Terras descobertas no dia de Natal => o Natal.
Some exceptions (if I'm not mistaken): you don't say "o Porto Seguro", nor "as Minas Gerais".
Sometimes, you don't have an article: Portugal, Marrocos, Lisboa, Paris, Londres (in fact, most cities), places named after saints (São Paulo, Salvador,...).
N.B.: I corrected your text. In Portugal (and, I think, in Brazil too) we reserve the words "amar", "amo" to persons (and only in special cases). In other contexts, we prefer to say "gostar de" or (rarely) "adorar".
Edited by Luso on 09 January 2014 at 1:30am
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| ennime Tetraglot Senior Member South Africa universityofbrokengl Joined 5902 days ago 397 posts - 507 votes Speaks: English, Dutch*, Esperanto, Afrikaans Studies: Xhosa, French, Korean, Portuguese, Zulu
| Message 70 of 204 09 January 2014 at 1:40am | IP Logged |
Abrigado, Luso
I understand the corrections to my sentences.
as to the articles and the place names... I'm trying to wrap my he'd around... so basically only certain place names have an article? and for all those others you'd use "em"? or am I hitting it way off...
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| Luso Hexaglot Senior Member Portugal Joined 6059 days ago 819 posts - 1812 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, French, EnglishC2, GermanB1, Italian, Spanish Studies: Sanskrit, Arabic (classical)
| Message 71 of 204 09 January 2014 at 2:35am | IP Logged |
ennime wrote:
Obrigada, Luso
I understand the corrections to my sentences.
as to the articles and the place names... I'm trying to wrap my he'd around... so basically only certain place names have an article? and for all those others you'd use "em"? or am I hitting it way off... |
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Yes, in some cases you only use the preposition, but it's not bound to always be "em". This is a different question, though. Depending on context, you might have:
- A Chapada Diamantina fica no Brasil. => it's (in) there.
- Eu vou ao Brasil. => presumably, I'll be back.
- Eu vou para o Brasil. => presumably, I'm going to stay there.
Edited by Luso on 09 January 2014 at 2:36am
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| espejismo Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5049 days ago 498 posts - 905 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: Spanish, Greek, Azerbaijani
| Message 72 of 204 09 January 2014 at 12:25pm | IP Logged |
Expugnator wrote:
Suggested assignement: do a short search in Portuguese about Chapada Diamantina
and write a few lines about why you think it is worth (or not) visiting Chapada
Diamantina. |
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Eu acho que vale a pena conhecer a Chapada Diamantina, é maravilhosa. Esta região tem belas paisagens e cachoeiras. Encontrei um comentário em um blog que descrevo exatamente a minha opinião sobre este lugar: "Deu uma vontade danada de conhecer esse paraíso." :P
Sorry, I haven't tried writing anything in Portuguese for ages.
Edited by espejismo on 09 January 2014 at 12:52pm
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