hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5131 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe
| Message 17 of 28 05 September 2014 at 12:07am | IP Logged |
Serpent wrote:
"work on your understanding of the impersonal forms" is the same as "work on your understanding of the gerund and infinitive". |
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It certainly is not.
While gerunds are used in impersonal verb forms, the two terms are not interchangeable.
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gemiscorp Tetraglot Newbie Thailand Joined 3738 days ago 6 posts - 6 votes Speaks: English*, German, Thai, French
| Message 18 of 28 06 September 2014 at 12:12am | IP Logged |
Technical terms are not important - usage is. Eliminate the redundancy.
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Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6598 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 19 of 28 06 September 2014 at 12:43am | IP Logged |
hrhenry wrote:
Serpent wrote:
"work on your understanding of the impersonal forms" is the same as "work on your understanding of the gerund and infinitive". |
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It certainly is not.
While gerunds are used in impersonal verb forms, the two terms are not interchangeable.
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Okay, seems like non-personal or nonfinite is the more common term worldwide, but that's how I was taught it (ie, impersonal). OP will hopefully find this page helpful :)
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doodoofan Tetraglot Newbie Vietnam japanesetest4you.com Joined 4716 days ago 19 posts - 25 votes Speaks: Vietnamese*, English, Mandarin, Japanese Studies: Korean, Spanish
| Message 20 of 28 13 September 2014 at 1:30pm | IP Logged |
I think "I kept telling her" is more accurare. "I kept having to tell her" sounds unnatural.
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luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7206 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French
| Message 21 of 28 13 September 2014 at 11:14pm | IP Logged |
doodoofan wrote:
I think "I kept telling her" is more accurare. "I kept having to tell her" sounds unnatural. |
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"I kept having to tell her" emphasizes the speaker's feeling of obligation to tell her again and again.
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Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6598 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 22 of 28 14 September 2014 at 12:46am | IP Logged |
And it's probably more common to use a different wording, such as "I had to tell her repeatedly/constantly"?
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genini1 Senior Member United States Joined 5469 days ago 114 posts - 161 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 23 of 28 24 September 2014 at 12:53am | IP Logged |
Serpent wrote:
And it's probably more common to use a different wording, such as "I had
to tell her repeatedly/constantly"? |
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Not really. I actually had to use this phrase yesterday and I used "I kept having to tell
him..." They both mean the same thing though.
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tornus Diglot GroupieRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5144 days ago 82 posts - 113 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: Spanish, Swedish, Danish
| Message 24 of 28 25 September 2014 at 8:14pm | IP Logged |
I guess this is what happens when people try to say too many things in the same sentence with too many subtleties. It works but sounds a bit off.
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