flabbergasted Triglot Groupie Latvia Joined 6357 days ago 75 posts - 97 votes Speaks: Russian*, EnglishC2, Latvian Studies: Arabic (classical), French, German, Italian, Spanish, Mandarin, Serbo-Croatian, Catalan, Persian
| Message 1 of 9 18 March 2015 at 8:01pm | IP Logged |
What is the difference between "to the north" and "to the immediate north"? What is
the exact meaning of "immediate" in the latter?
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James29 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5376 days ago 1265 posts - 2113 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French
| Message 2 of 9 18 March 2015 at 8:18pm | IP Logged |
Canada is to the north of Detroit but NOT to the immediate north of Detroit. Canada is to the immediate SOUTH of Detroit.
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flabbergasted Triglot Groupie Latvia Joined 6357 days ago 75 posts - 97 votes Speaks: Russian*, EnglishC2, Latvian Studies: Arabic (classical), French, German, Italian, Spanish, Mandarin, Serbo-Croatian, Catalan, Persian
| Message 3 of 9 19 March 2015 at 6:45am | IP Logged |
Thanks for this example! I guess it's just me being stupid, but I checked the map once
again, and I cannot understand "to the immediate south" here, as Canada seems to be
always to the north, I mean it is above Detroit on the map.
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flabbergasted Triglot Groupie Latvia Joined 6357 days ago 75 posts - 97 votes Speaks: Russian*, EnglishC2, Latvian Studies: Arabic (classical), French, German, Italian, Spanish, Mandarin, Serbo-Croatian, Catalan, Persian
| Message 4 of 9 19 March 2015 at 6:48am | IP Logged |
Wait, wait, I think I get it. The Canadian territory closest to Detroit is to the
south of it, right?
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smallwhite Pentaglot Senior Member Australia Joined 5309 days ago 537 posts - 1045 votes Speaks: Cantonese*, English, Mandarin, French, Spanish
| Message 5 of 9 19 March 2015 at 8:21am | IP Logged |
Whether there's anything in-between.
Is Detroit a very famous place?
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James29 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5376 days ago 1265 posts - 2113 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French
| Message 6 of 9 19 March 2015 at 10:09am | IP Logged |
flabbergasted wrote:
Wait, wait, I think I get it. The Canadian territory closest to Detroit is to the
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Well... it is to the immediate south. :)
Yes, I think you get it now.
Detroit/Canada was the only clear example of the distinction that came to mind. I figured it would be easier to use that as an example than try to explain it in words.
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Gomorritis Tetraglot Groupie Netherlands Joined 4279 days ago 91 posts - 157 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English, Catalan, French Studies: Greek, German, Dutch
| Message 7 of 9 19 March 2015 at 10:58am | IP Logged |
James29 wrote:
Canada is to the north of Detroit but NOT to the immediate north of Detroit. Canada is to the immediate SOUTH of Detroit. |
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flabbergasted wrote:
Wait, wait, I think I get it. The Canadian territory closest to Detroit is to the
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Really? This explanation sounds very weird to me. Doesn't "to the immediate north" mean "to the north, without nothing in between"?
As in "Netherlands is to the north of France" or "Netherlands is to the immediate north of Belgium".
Edited by Gomorritis on 19 March 2015 at 11:00am
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James29 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5376 days ago 1265 posts - 2113 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French
| Message 8 of 9 19 March 2015 at 11:33am | IP Logged |
Well, I suppose the Detroit river is actually between Detroit and Canada, but I think that's getting a bit too technical.
I agree with you that "Netherlands is to the north of France" and "Netherlands is to the immediate north of Belgium". That's not inconsistent with the Detroit/Canada example.
The point is that Canada is to the south of Detroit and there is nothing between them (except the river) so Canada is to the immediate south of Detroit. Canada is also to the north (but not the immediate north - Michigan is to the immediate north of Detroit).
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