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| soclydeza85 Senior Member United States Joined 3907 days ago 357 posts - 502 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: German, French | Message 1 of 7 21 June 2015 at 5:56am | IP Logged |
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I figure I'd make this thread dedicated to my Norwegian questions instead of making a new one every time.
My question is about the pronunciation of B. I've been listening to Pimsleur and when they say "ha det bra", sometimes the "bra" sounds like it's pronounced with a B (as expected), but sometimes it sounds like it's pronounced with a D, kind of like saying "draw" with the flipped R. At first I thought maybe the audio just wasn't clear on the Pimsleur tapes but I was watching a youtube video and it sounded like he was using the D sound there too. I've looked in my books and found nothing about an alternative pronunciation of B. Am I going crazy or is this a feature of the language? 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| stifa Triglot Senior Member Norway lang-8.com/448715 Joined 4873 days ago 629 posts - 813 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, EnglishC2, German Studies: Japanese, Spanish | Message 2 of 7 21 June 2015 at 11:19am | IP Logged |
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Could you link to the Youtube video? Because I have no idea what your talking about... Edited by stifa on 21 June 2015 at 11:20am 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| numerodix Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6783 days ago 856 posts - 1226 votes Speaks: EnglishC2*, Norwegian*, Polish*, Italian, Dutch, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin | Message 3 of 7 21 June 2015 at 12:23pm | IP Logged |
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It's supposed to be a B...
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 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6909 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 4 of 7 21 June 2015 at 6:04pm | IP Logged |
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OK, Norwegian and Swedish work the same way: the d- in det can be a flap-r (especially in intervocalic positions), the -t in det isn't pronounced at all, and therefore the b- in bra can be soft (or intervocalic, as in Spanish). The quality of the -r- after a supposed soft b may be flapped.
Confused? Edited by jeff_lindqvist on 22 June 2015 at 1:23am 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| soclydeza85 Senior Member United States Joined 3907 days ago 357 posts - 502 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, French | Message 5 of 7 21 June 2015 at 7:46pm | IP Logged |
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I'm having trouble finding the youtube video that I heard it in, but here is a segment from the Pimsleur tape, listen especially to the second time he says "bra". I guess if I listen closely I can kind of hear it as a B, but it overall still sounds like a D to me.
https://soundcloud.com/soclydeza/norsk-bra-example I've never linked anything from soundcloud before, so hopefully this works I guess it doesn't really matter, as long as I know it will always have a B sound then that makes everything easier. Edited by soclydeza85 on 21 June 2015 at 7:48pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| daegga Tetraglot Senior Member Austria lang-8.com/553301 Joined 4521 days ago 1076 posts - 1792 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Swedish, Norwegian Studies: Danish, French, Finnish, Icelandic | Message 6 of 7 21 June 2015 at 7:57pm | IP Logged |
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sounds just like a [ b ] to me ... try to compare "bra" with "dra" if you can find
recordings, they sound different Edited by daegga on 21 June 2015 at 7:57pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| soclydeza85 Senior Member United States Joined 3907 days ago 357 posts - 502 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, French | Message 7 of 7 21 June 2015 at 8:14pm | IP Logged |
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Then it's just me. I usually have a good ear for that kind of stuff but I suppose the [ b ] sound in Norwegian is a bit more of a quick pop that my American ears aren't used to. I was thinking it was maybe one of those things where the sound depended on the letter that came before or after it, kind of like the liaison in French. Thanks for the clarification! Edited by soclydeza85 on 21 June 2015 at 8:15pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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