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geoffw Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 4689 days ago 1134 posts - 1865 votes Speaks: English*, German, Yiddish Studies: Modern Hebrew, French, Dutch, Italian, Russian
| Message 17 of 21 01 September 2015 at 3:00am | IP Logged |
In lieu of "I don't know" or "I dunno," in informal speech I sometimes/frequently drop every single
consonant: "Ah-uh-oh." Tends to come out kind of nasal. I would only write "I don't know" (or even "I
do not know," since I'm really uptight about writing properly, but I'm not self-conscious about
speaking that way in a professional setting among peers.
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| Elenia Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom lilyonlife.blog Joined 3857 days ago 239 posts - 327 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Swedish, Esperanto
| Message 18 of 21 01 September 2015 at 6:20pm | IP Logged |
geoffw wrote:
In lieu of "I don't know" or "I dunno," in informal speech I sometimes/frequently drop every single consonant: "Ah-uh-oh." Tends to come out kind of nasal. I would only write "I don't know" (or even "I do not know," since I'm really uptight about writing properly, but I'm not self-conscious about speaking that way in a professional setting among peers. |
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I do precisely this when speaking, but only to family of friends. In writing, I'll write things like 'dunno' and 'gonna' or 'Imma', but for the rest I avoid abbreviations or chat speak (things like b, b4, wuu2, 2nite etc.), save for when talking toone of my closest friends. That is an in-joke between us more than anything else.
But I know a few extremely clever people who write this way. In particular, a bilingual friend* who always writes like that when making very well reasoned arguments and statements, and a German friend who speaks French and English fluently, but write them both using chat speak. It doesn't lessen my opinion of him. In fact, it raises it because I've never quite gotten the hang of it.
*And something the OP might find interesting: that bilingual friend also uses 'finna', which somehow means 'gonna'. I don't get the relationship, but if you see/hear 'I'm finna go do this', it means 'I'm going to go and do this'.
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| Kimchizzle Diglot Newbie United States Joined 3420 days ago 24 posts - 44 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Russian
| Message 19 of 21 01 September 2015 at 9:23pm | IP Logged |
I'm finna go do this, comes from,
I'm fixing to go do this.
This is an idimatic expression for:
I'm getting ready to go do this.
Or, I'm going to go do this.
The way to use this expression is:
I'm fixing to + verb.
I'm fixing to eat, and I'll be over when I'm finished.
I'm getting ready to eat and I'll be over when I'm done.
This idiom is only used in informal speech and writing though, mot formal.
Edited by Kimchizzle on 01 September 2015 at 9:24pm
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| James29 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5376 days ago 1265 posts - 2113 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French
| Message 20 of 21 01 September 2015 at 9:45pm | IP Logged |
"Fixing to" is quite common in the rural south. I don't think of it as informal or an idiom. It is quite normal English in certain parts of the country.
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| Kimchizzle Diglot Newbie United States Joined 3420 days ago 24 posts - 44 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Russian
| Message 21 of 21 02 September 2015 at 3:35am | IP Logged |
Yes normal in areas, but still an idiomatic expression because the parts wouldn't make sense when translated into another language.
Lots of idioms can be common, but they are still idiomatic.
My nose is running.
Hold your horses just a minute.
Watch out, he's a bit of a live wire.
The detective looked through the car with a fine-toothed comb.
These idiomatic expressions are common and obvious to a native who has heard them many times over. But they are not obvious in meaning to a non-native without being explained.
Edited by Kimchizzle on 02 September 2015 at 4:56am
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