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| MostDef Newbie Canada Joined 5817 days ago 10 posts - 10 votes Studies: French | Message 1 of 20 29 December 2008 at 3:07pm | IP Logged | ||
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I have a Koran at my home, and on Cassete it on Audio. Although im not quite sure if it is chanted or not.
I want to incorporate the Shadowing and Scriptorium method into my learning, that much is clear but....... I have no idea where to begin. I have to learn the Alphabet Obviously but aside from that what should i use to help me overcome the difficulty of this language? I can't do L & R at this stage in the game obivously. What i was thinking to do is to read up on the grammer rules of the language somewhat, take down the pronouns and what not and from there decipher the words from the book and incorporate them into Wordlists which i can then memorize. Also i have a native speaker who can at times help me. Any suggestions? Im rather lost on how to begin. But i want to have this all planned out before i begin. Thanks in Advance Edited by MostDef on 29 December 2008 at 3:21pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Britomartis Groupie United States Joined 5817 days ago 67 posts - 74 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Mandarin | Message 2 of 20 29 December 2008 at 6:45pm | IP Logged | ||
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Well, I know that the Quran is written in Classical Arabic which is different than Modern Standard Arabic (which is different from the various spoken dialects). This may may it more difficult.
Which dialect does the helpful native speaker know? For learning the alphabet, I'd recommend The Arabic alphabet: how to read and write it by Nicholas Awde. I found it in the library at my university and I thought it was rather good. I learned the alphabet from Madina Arabic which I also recommend (and yes, it's free). Edit: The link for for madinaharabic.com. Edited by Britomartis on 29 December 2008 at 6:48pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| MostDef Newbie Canada Joined 5817 days ago 10 posts - 10 votes Studies: French | Message 3 of 20 29 December 2008 at 8:09pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks for reply Britomartis!
The Native Speaker in Question speaks Maroccan Arabic natively which as i understand is as distant from Gulf Arabic and therefore MSA and Koranic Arabic as you will find in the Arab World. At the very least i can get some advice on spelling and the Alphabet though. Also, I will take a look at that book on Amazon. Thanks for the recomendation there. Anybody else have an recomendations/Critques to make on my plan? Advice? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| berachia Diglot Newbie United Kingdom Joined 5813 days ago 1 posts - 1 votes Speaks: Urdu, English* Studies: German, Russian, Arabic (classical), French | Message 4 of 20 02 January 2009 at 6:40am | IP Logged | ||
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Superlative online resources:
http://www.kalamullah.com/learning-arabic.html Attach yourself to, or at least spend some time browsing, the following forum. http://lisanularab.org/forums/index.php This text I would recommend: "Arabic through the Qur'an" Alan Jones. Edited by berachia on 02 January 2009 at 8:28am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| J-Learner Senior Member Australia Joined 6038 days ago 556 posts - 636 votes Studies: Yiddish, English* Studies: Dutch | Message 5 of 20 02 January 2009 at 11:49am | IP Logged | ||
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I also recommend that text berachia. I have not studied Arabic to any deep extent yet but think it is a rather comprehensive book with a good layout for my style.
There is so much for Arabic thankfully, so it need not be a problems of resources other than finding one/s that you like to use. The trick is method and persistence. I hoe your efforts pay off MostDef. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| The Side Effect Newbie United States Joined 5826 days ago 11 posts - 11 votes Studies: Arabic (Written) | Message 6 of 20 06 January 2009 at 5:09pm | IP Logged | ||
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I learned a good portion of my Arabic through the Qur'an. Standard Arabic (Fushaa) actually hasn't changed much from Classical, with the exception of some of the vocabulary and spelling. Even then it doesn't pose too big of a problem. It's the spoken dialects that are really different. If your friend knows Fushaa well, however, then you shouldn't have to worry about anything.
A great primer for a basic understanding of the language is Jane Wightwick's "Easy Arabic Grammar." 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Alkeides Senior Member Bhutan Joined 6156 days ago 636 posts - 644 votes | Message 7 of 20 06 January 2009 at 11:34pm | IP Logged | ||
Did you incorporate any oral recitation of the Quran at all? If so, did you manage to learn effectively from the chants or did you manage to find a version read normally? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Talib Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6669 days ago 171 posts - 205 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (classical) Studies: Arabic (Egyptian) | Message 8 of 20 15 January 2009 at 9:27am | IP Logged | ||
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Once you get the basics of Quranic Arabic, I would recommend using 'The Qur'an: A new translation by M.A.S. Abdel Haleem'. This translation is very clear and it can save you time from looking up words in the dictionary. Studying Qur'anic Arabic is very complex at the peak of its eloquence, although it can be accessiable even to those who don't understand classical Arabic fully and read it, however deficiently, like a newspaper. Courses at www.sunnipath.com are excellent, and it will be necessary for anybody who wants to truly understand the Quran at a high level to study classical Arabic with a teacher, even if this idea might run counter to people who would rather study languages entirely on their own. It would even be necessary for someone fluent in Modern Standard Arabic to study the intricacies of syntax (nahw), morphology (sarf), and eloquence (balagha) with a teacher to understand the Qur'an at its peak. I am not saying this in anyway to dissuade anybody from learning Qur'anic Arabic because it can be very beautiful even if it is only read like a newspaper without understanding its finer points, but one must understand that without a deep knowledge of the language spoken by the ancient Arabs, one's understanding of it will not come close to everything that it has to offer.
wassalam Edited by Talib on 15 January 2009 at 4:50pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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