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| Talib Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6669 days ago 171 posts - 205 votes  Speaks: English*, Arabic (classical) Studies: Arabic (Egyptian) | Message 9 of 20 15 January 2009 at 4:49pm | IP Logged | ||
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I wanted to add this link so that you can hear the Quran recited. Sheikh Minshawi is an especially good reciter, and this clip features simultaneous translation. Enjoy.
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| MostDef Newbie Canada Joined 5817 days ago 10 posts - 10 votes Studies: French | Message 10 of 20 19 January 2009 at 12:48am | IP Logged | ||
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Thank you/Shokran for you insights and the link aswell Talib,You seem to know your Arabic well and have studied it indepth.
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| William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6280 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French | Message 11 of 20 19 January 2009 at 1:25am | IP Logged | ||
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I am wondering whether you would learn usable vocabulary that way. I wouldn't learn German from Luther's Bible translation, although I am not sure the analogy fits all that well.
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| MostDef Newbie Canada Joined 5817 days ago 10 posts - 10 votes Studies: French | Message 12 of 20 19 January 2009 at 1:32am | IP Logged | ||
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Well apparently Qu'ranic Arabic and MSA (Modern Standard Arabic) are apparently very similar and dont vary a great deal from one another. Modern Standard Arabic being the language of Newspapers,News Broadcasts and books in much of the Arab world rather then colloquial dialects.
Knowing this it is self-evident why one would learn Qu'ranic Arabic or MSA as apposed to a colloqial form of the language. Edited by MostDef on 19 January 2009 at 1:38am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Talib Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6669 days ago 171 posts - 205 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (classical) Studies: Arabic (Egyptian) | Message 13 of 20 20 January 2009 at 4:41pm | IP Logged | ||
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At the basic level, MSA and classical Arabic are almost identical in terms of the base vocabulary and the grammar. For that reason, a beginning course in MSA would overlap a lot with Qur'anic Arabic. It would seem strange that a sentence like 'The man sent his child to buy a computer disk' would have any thing in common classical Arabic, but when you think about it, 'computer disk' is the only phrase that is not represented in classical Arabic. There simply were no computer disks fourteen hundred years ago. There are other new inventions that do not have names in classical Arabic for the same reason, although they give a new meaning to an old word. 'sayyaratun', for example means 'a car' in modern Arabic and 'a caravan' in classical Arabic. These differences should not be a problem in going between classical Arabic and modern written Arabic, and overall, the similarities are more than the differences.
At the higher levels, classical Arabic has more complicated grammar and some of the advanced structures have been left in modern Arabic to make it easier for the layman to read. It would be a mistake to learn MSA and then assume that one knows classical Arabic in its entirety. The scope of eloquence in classical Arabic goes much further than modern Arabic. The grammatical structures of classical Arabic encompasses the grammatical structures found in MSA, but a person who is well versed in classical Arabic would still need additional vocabulary regarding politics, idomatic phrases, and other vocabulary that was not used by the ancient Arabs to read a newspaper fluently. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Akbaboy Hexaglot Newbie United States Joined 5796 days ago 35 posts - 36 votes Speaks: English*, German, Portuguese, Cantonese, Catalan, French Studies: Mandarin, Spanish, Dutch | Message 14 of 20 20 January 2009 at 5:55pm | IP Logged | ||
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I am learning the Qu'ran, too, because I am Muslim..... but Classical Arabic might be hard with the grammer and pronouncing (I know because I have trouble, too, because I forget.....), but yeah, I suppose you try your best and remember, even though I try my best and forget....
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| ANK47 Triglot Senior Member United States thearabicstudent.blo Joined 7105 days ago 188 posts - 259 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Written), Arabic (classical) | Message 15 of 20 23 January 2009 at 3:58pm | IP Logged | ||
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I can't imagine learning Arabic by beginning with the Quran. Imagine trying to learn English by beginning with the King James version of the Bible. I know Arabic pretty well and I still don't immediately know exactly what a Quranic verse means when I read it for the first time. Also lots of the Quran is spiritual and fluff language that really doesn't mean anything tangible. Plus, a lot of the words used in the Quran aren't used in MSA today. I'd have to recommend against doing this. It will probably discourage you from learning Arabic at all when you find it overwhelming. I'm not saying learning Arabic by starting with the Quran can't be done. I'm just saying there are much better ways to start.
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| Al-Irelandi Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5543 days ago 111 posts - 177 votes Speaks: English* | Message 16 of 20 09 November 2009 at 4:01am | IP Logged | ||
I actually started learning Arabic through the Qur'aan and can testify that what came after (learning modern terms used on the news and in papers) was easy as I had learned the grammar in depth by resorting to the Qur'aan and reading it intensively. Likewise a deficiency in your statement arises here, as in fact learning Arabic will always return one to the study of the Quran for the best examples of nahw, sarf, balaaghah, i3raab, etc. Such that even modern day authorities on the language like Fuaad Ni3mah do so, not just ibn Maalik or ibn Aajurroom. So much for a book of 'intangible fluff'. On a side note, I personally find the Qur'aan easy to read, and yes an in depth knowledge of the aayahs will be dependent on referring back to tafsir and seerah. For a Muslim who wants to learn Arabic I would recommend them to read their Qur'aan regularly as they will take much vocab form it and gain balaaghah/eloquency in the language, but will of course have to resort to reading newspapers to gain modern vocab for dealing with new concepts etc. I saw that the guys I was studying Arabic with (non-Arabs) who already read al-Qur'aan already had a good base vocab which they aquired just from reading the Qur'aan and this helped them progress quicker than myself, who at that time wasn't able to recite it at all. Edited by al-Irlandee on 09 November 2009 at 1:43pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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