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| dan Newbie United Kingdom Joined 6802 days ago 2 posts - 2 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, Russian, Malay | Message 1 of 8 20 April 2006 at 8:33am | IP Logged | ||
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...jumped over the lazy dog".
Is there an equivalent to this sentence in Russian, not literally a translation, but a sentence that uses every Russian letter in the same way "quick brown fox" uses every English letter? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| administrator Hexaglot Forum Admin Switzerland FXcuisine.com Joined 7382 days ago 3094 posts - 2987 votes  12 sounds Speaks: French*, EnglishC2, German, Italian, Spanish, Russian Personal Language Map | Message 2 of 8 20 April 2006 at 9:23am | IP Logged | ||
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Here there is a nice collection of pangrams including a couple in Russian.
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| DaraghM Diglot Senior Member Ireland Joined 6157 days ago 1947 posts - 2923 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Russian, Hungarian | Message 3 of 8 16 November 2009 at 3:40pm | IP Logged | ||
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Like Dan, in this old post, I was wondering what were the equivalents in Russian and other languages. I didn't even know they were called pangrams. Non pro-members won't find this thread by searching, so I thought I should bump this one up.
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| tommus Senior Member CanadaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5872 days ago 979 posts - 1688 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Dutch, French, Esperanto, German, Spanish | Message 4 of 8 16 November 2009 at 3:58pm | IP Logged | ||
It is interesting how Google Translate handles pangrams. I know that for English > Dutch, GT does not translate "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog." It simply returns the exact same phrase. But if you change it a bit, such as making it a green fox, you get this: "De snelle groene vos springt over de luie hond." Apparently this is due to the statistical nature of GT. Presumably most Dutch speakers use the English version for a pangram. Another train of thought is that pangrams should not be translated (the same reason as for not translating proper nouns, place names, etc). That was a heated discussion on the GT forum. So lets not repeat it here. But it would be interesting to know how GT handles pangrams in other languages. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| administrator Hexaglot Forum Admin Switzerland FXcuisine.com Joined 7382 days ago 3094 posts - 2987 votes 12 sounds Speaks: French*, EnglishC2, German, Italian, Spanish, Russian Personal Language Map | Message 5 of 8 16 November 2009 at 7:34pm | IP Logged | ||
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Longer List of Pangrams on Wikipedia
I used to curate a collection of old typewriters and used the phrase Portez ce vieux whisky au juge blond qui fume to test whether all letters worked. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Envinyatar Diglot Senior Member Guatemala Joined 5542 days ago 147 posts - 240 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: Modern Hebrew | Message 6 of 8 17 November 2009 at 5:35pm | IP Logged | ||
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Japanese Iroha is the most impressive of all because it's a perfect pangram containing all kana and it's a poem!
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| Captain Haddock Diglot Senior Member Japan kanjicabinet.tumblr. Joined 6774 days ago 2282 posts - 2814 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, Korean, Ancient Greek | Message 7 of 8 17 November 2009 at 5:48pm | IP Logged | ||
And it's so well-known in Japan that it defines the order of the kana when used for listing items (or go moves) the way you would list things as (a) (b) (c)… in English. Edited by Captain Haddock on 17 November 2009 at 5:51pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| global_gizzy Senior Member United States maxcollege.blogspot. Joined 5709 days ago 275 posts - 310 votes Studies: Spanish | Message 8 of 8 22 November 2009 at 3:28pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks very much for bumping this, I was wondering about this very thing yesterday!!! :).
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