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| magictom123 Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5595 days ago 272 posts - 365 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, French | Message 9 of 16 27 January 2012 at 10:34am | IP Logged | ||
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To those who have finished the course, at what level would you say your Spanish was at?
Are everyday conversations easy to navigate after completing the course? Can you watch TV etc? I think I read somewhere that the course leads to around C1 - is that correct. Of course, the course requires a huge investment in time. I have done a lot of reading about how good the course is, but not necessarily from people who have completed it, so I would be interested to know. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| petteri Triglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4934 days ago 117 posts - 208 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, Swedish Studies: German, Spanish | Message 10 of 16 27 January 2012 at 11:56am | IP Logged | ||
No. In my opinion Platiquemos leads to listening and reading comprehension somewhere between B1.1 and B2.1. But everyday speaking proficiency can be higher than usually at that level. Overall C1 skills generally require learning much wider vocabulary (8000 - 12000 words and idioms) than Platiquemos provides. Completing Platiquemos provides good amount skills needed to achieve C1. But it does not provide enough vocabulary neither adequate amount of reading nor listening practice. Edited by petteri on 27 January 2012 at 12:30pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| magictom123 Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5595 days ago 272 posts - 365 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, French | Message 11 of 16 27 January 2012 at 2:00pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks for the reply. I guess the source (I can't find it now) from which I had
mistakenly gathered that the course led to C1 may have simply been someone self-assessing after completion of the course. A quick look at the Amazon reviews for the course show a couple of people at least stating that they had gone from zero to fluency using Platiquemos. Back to the point of the thread, I read earlier today that one person using the course to teach was spending around 45 hours per level. The notes at the start of the textbook suggests 5-600 hours but I suppose how long each day you are spending on it and how well you are able to absorb what you are learning. Edited by magictom123 on 27 January 2012 at 2:03pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| petteri Triglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4934 days ago 117 posts - 208 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, Swedish Studies: German, Spanish | Message 12 of 16 27 January 2012 at 2:43pm | IP Logged | ||
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It all depends on deficiency of fluency. Platiquemos can take a learner pretty far in everyday speaking proficiency.
But in my mind C1 language skills mean also ie. being able to read newspapers or Isabel Allende novels without consulting dictionary too much and understanding good amount of tv programs without subtitles. As well C1 includes ability to write text which has pretty low amount of errors as well as ability to use the foreign language at work. All of those tasks require good vocabulary. Edited by petteri on 27 January 2012 at 2:45pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| petteri Triglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4934 days ago 117 posts - 208 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, Swedish Studies: German, Spanish | Message 13 of 16 27 January 2012 at 3:16pm | IP Logged | ||
Using 500-600 hours to study just Platiquemos could provide pretty unbalanced skill set and probably not best results. If you have 500 hours ie. this kind of mix up could give more balanced skill set: 30 hours: Learn Pimsleur (I and II) 150 hours: Learn Platiquemos 50 hours: Learn Assimil 120 hours: Learn words and idioms (grind, grind, grind.) 90 hours: read and listen to native materials. 70 hours: Write and analyze what you have written (Find a tutor to correct your errors). After studying 500 hours you should book four week language course in ie. Cuba. During the trip you are not allowed to speak or read anything but Spanish. After the immersion period you can probably speak pretty well. :) 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Random review Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5785 days ago 781 posts - 1310 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin, Yiddish, German | Message 14 of 16 27 January 2012 at 11:03pm | IP Logged | ||
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I finished Platiquemos plus many other things and I'm certainly not C1 in productive
skills (probably I am in receptive skills, if the definition of petteri is right, but that came from extensive reading, watching lots of TV etc). I'd agree with petteri: it should leave you somewhere between B1 and B2. Edited by Random review on 27 January 2012 at 11:21pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| dano21 Newbie United States Joined 4921 days ago 4 posts - 5 votes Studies: English | Message 15 of 16 06 February 2012 at 9:23pm | IP Logged | ||
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I agree with all of the above posters. I'm on unit 36 of the course, and after doing it
for about 9 months, my comprehension skills have improved dramatically. There are a few things I would touch on: You cannot rely only on this course. Watch tv, listen to radio, try to have conversations with people in person/online. Be persistent. Do a little every day. It would be better to do a couple of drills from a unit (20-30 minute) every day rather than do the full unit (~1 hour) every few days. It can be a little dull sometimes so you must remain motivated and persistent. I like to do the drill while I am walking to work and class. I get too distracted if I am sitting in front of my computer. I only need to book the first time I go through the unit, so it is not an issue. Good luck! It is a great program and I have seen many people of the forums here improve their Spanish using it! 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| DaraghM Diglot Senior Member Ireland Joined 6153 days ago 1947 posts - 2923 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Russian, Hungarian | Message 16 of 16 07 February 2012 at 11:50am | IP Logged | ||
As other posters have mentioned it leaves you somewhere between B1 and B2. I would say it gives you most of the grammar associated with B2, such as the various compound tenses and subjunctives, with an ability to use them actively in speech. While it teaches around 2,500 words, that's still not sufficient for B2 fluency. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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