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Getting the French "r" right
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Ibryam000
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27 March 2012 at 3:11pm | IP Logged

Be aware that the standard allophone of /r/ is this one ([ʁ]) and NOT this one ([ʀ]). It is quite slighter than in the video posted above, which is very exaggerated.
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Марк
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Message 10 of 13

27 March 2012 at 3:25pm | IP Logged

This sound always seemed easy to me, so I don't know what to suggest. It is not a real
trill, but a much lighter sound. I devoice it sometimes however at the end of words and
before voiceless consonants.
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Heather McNamar
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Message 11 of 13

27 March 2012 at 11:47pm | IP Logged

@jdmoncada-Thanks, I think that helped.

@Arekkusu-You're absolutely right, so here's a recording I made of myself for all of you to make fun of. (joking)

Me trying to speak French
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Arekkusu
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Message 12 of 13

28 March 2012 at 12:24am | IP Logged

Heather McNamar wrote:

@jdmoncada-Thanks, I think that helped.

@Arekkusu-You're absolutely right, so here's a recording I made of myself for all of you to make fun of.
(joking)

Me trying to speak French

You did a very good job. Everything is crystal clear.

There are 3 issues I'd like to mention though.

First, you said "du la bière" at the end; it should be "de". Either the word was wrong or the sound was wrong.

Second, r is indeed too emphasized and it made the following i like the English i in bit. Voudriez actually
sounded like 4 syllables when it should 3. Try making the sound with less tension or stress in the throat and
focus on moving on to the next sound right away. In -dri-, focus on i and skim over the r.

Lastly, the final é in manger sounded like an English diphthong ey.
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Heather McNamar
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Message 13 of 13

28 March 2012 at 1:12am | IP Logged

Arekkusu wrote:

You did a very good job. Everything is crystal clear.

There are 3 issues I'd like to mention though.

First, you said "du la bière" at the end; it should be "de". Either the word was wrong or the sound was
wrong.

Second, r is indeed too emphasized and it made the following i like the English i in bit. Voudriez actually
sounded like 4 syllables when it should 3. Try making the sound with less tension or stress in the throat
and
focus on moving on to the next sound right away. In -dri-, focus on i and skim over the r.

Lastly, the final é in manger sounded like an English diphthong ey.

Thank you very much. I will take your suggestions and use them to improve my pronunciation. I'm
mostly okay with vocabulary, but sometimes my ability to comprehend sounds are not up to par, which
could explain the confusion of "de" and "du." Thanks again.

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