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| translator2 Senior Member United States Joined 6920 days ago 848 posts - 1862 votes  Speaks: English* | Message 9 of 13 27 March 2012 at 2:42pm | IP Logged | ||
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And here is a link to the other site atama warui mentioned (I think):
Tim Sensei's Corner 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5382 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 10 of 13 27 March 2012 at 3:54pm | IP Logged | ||
ha/ga is to us what articles are to the Japanese. It takes a long time to master. Even if you think it's so simple and you got it down pat, you still get the odd one wrong, even after years. Are you saying you don't get what the problem is because never get them wrong yourself? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| atama warui Triglot Senior Member Japan Joined 4702 days ago 594 posts - 985 votes Speaks: German*, English, Japanese | Message 11 of 13 28 March 2012 at 5:29am | IP Logged | ||
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I never had a problem with them as soon as I realized what "topic" means. It's one seamless concept along with omissions in the language. You only use が where は is "already taken", or with indirect objects (most of the time, Japanese people omit it in this case), and when using intransitive verbs.
が is not only omitted, but, whenever possible, being "overwritten" by stronger particles, like は or も. The ONLY thing you need to know about "when to use が and not は" is: Only when you have no choice but to put an object marker - _absolutely_ no choice. P.S.: Yes, that's link #2. Both sites together will bring you on the right track. The grammar taught there should be sufficient for B1, given you know enough vocab (around 2000 words). "imabijapaneselearningcenter" and more words (around 6000) will take you to B2, possibly C1. You'll still have to work on listening comprehension and production though. It's actually really quite simple. If I'd have known that all when I started learning, I'd have reached a way higher level than I have today. Edited by atama warui on 28 March 2012 at 5:30am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Lucky Charms Diglot Senior Member Japan lapacifica.net Joined 6950 days ago 752 posts - 1711 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: German, Spanish | Message 12 of 13 28 March 2012 at 6:28am | IP Logged | ||
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So many people speak highly of Tae Kim's Guide to Japanese Grammar, but when I browsed
through it once I couldn't figure out how it was different than your average textbook. Could someone explain what it is that sets his site apart? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| atama warui Triglot Senior Member Japan Joined 4702 days ago 594 posts - 985 votes Speaks: German*, English, Japanese | Message 13 of 13 28 March 2012 at 10:17pm | IP Logged | ||
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The fact it teaches dictionary forms first, introduces common Kanji while doing grammar and the concept of the lessons make it superior in my opinion. Other courses may also build up, but the order in which what is being taught, along with the exercises, is pretty awesome.
In the end, it doesn't matter which course you do I guess, just stick with it to the end. Tae Kim is my preference (or would be, if I'd need to do those lessons still, but they're designed to take you to B1 and not further), other courses might work better for other people. 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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