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| Darobat Diglot Senior Member Joined 7189 days ago 754 posts - 770 votes  Speaks: English*, Russian Studies: Latin | Message 9 of 34 17 August 2005 at 8:56am | IP Logged | ||
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Why hasn't this information been transfered to the Language Profiles section of the main page? There seems to be enough info.
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| jason Diglot Newbie India Joined 6715 days ago 17 posts - 17 votes Speaks: Hindi, EnglishC2 Studies: Italian | Message 10 of 34 14 July 2006 at 12:50pm | IP Logged | ||
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I would like to add that for anyone who would like to learn Hindi, Bollywood is a source you should consider.
Hindi film songs especially old songs would be very good. If you do decide to go for it, there are combo cd packs(5-6 cd's) available where you have the best songs of a singer. I'd recommend going for Kishore Kumar, Mohammad Rafi, Mukesh, Lata Mangeshkar, Asha Bhonsle. Some of the very popular movies are availble with english sub-titles in the US or so I've heard and a few other countries. You could check them out. As for actual courses for learning the language I guess its been dealt with earlier and I have nothing more to add there. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| sumabeast Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6927 days ago 212 posts - 220 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Written) | Message 11 of 34 14 July 2006 at 3:57pm | IP Logged | ||
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As an Arabic speaker I find Urdu script very easy to read. I can sound out just about everything in print as so much of is vocab is Arabic, and in modern wrttings especailly the newspapers much of it is English borrowed without any change to the word.
then I also find that hand written Urdu is much easier than hand written Arabic. Maybe the Pakistanis just have better penmanship? hand written Arabic is often a nightmare! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Sunny_ Newbie Canada Joined 6538 days ago 4 posts - 13 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Sanskrit | Message 12 of 34 31 July 2007 at 2:22pm | IP Logged | ||
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Here are some of the most comprehensive Hindi/Urdu courses that I know of which are not mentioned:
Spoken and Written Hindi by Gordon H. Fairbanks and Bal Govind Misra. You can get a set of 25 tapes that go along with the conversations and exercise from Cornell University Language Resource Centre U.S.A http://lrc.cornell.edu/sales/catalog/hindi Conversational Hindi – Urdu by John J. Gumperz with A.B Singh and C.M. Naim. It is a two volume book set. It has about 24 tapes for the conversation and pronunciations drills, and another 24 tapes for the grammar drills. The tapes cover the first 14 lessons. Some of the recordings could be a little more clear but still very usable. Hindi: An Active Introduction by R.N. Sharma and James W. Stone is by FSI and can be found free at: http://fsi-language-courses.com/Hindi.aspx Also, Spoken Language Services has a course called Spoken Hindustani by Henry Hoenigswald with 6 cassettes. http://www.spokenlanguage.com/ Other good resources that I am aware of are: A good content website that has some technical problems (sometimes when playing videos weird things happen) but has good videos along with matching dialogue in Hindi with English translation (click on the hindi words) and many other great features is ‘A Door into Hindi’ by Afroz Taj http://taj.chass.ncsu.edu/ Introduction to Hindi Grammar by Usha Jain you can get an accompanying set of audio tapes I believe 12 tapes to go with the book. One problem it has no answer key but still very usable as she provides many examples. She teaches at Southeast Asia Institute, University of California, Berkeley. The book very clearly explains Hindi grammar without being excessively verbose or pedantic. You can buy her book on www.amazon.com. The Southeast Asia Institute, University of California, Berkeley has the book and audio material along with a few other items she has produced. Hindi Teacher for English Speaking People by Dr. Ratnakar Narale very clearly explains the devanagari script probably the best I have seen for explaining the script, provides endless examples and exercises through out the book and has an answer key. The book had some problems one major one being no audio to go with the book. But still I found it very useful. Here is a website where the book can be found. http://www.hilwebsite.com/%5Chtmls%5Cratnakar%20books.html Here is a highly productive website for learning the devanagari script along with there sound: http://www.avashy.com/hindiscripttutor.htm Online hindi dictionary sites: http://www.shabdkosh.com/ http://www.wordanywhere.com/ A site that has Bollywood songs translated into English if you get the matching songs on audio (which you can find on websites or retail stores) to go with the translated lyrics you may surprise yourself how quickly and pleasantly you build up vocabulary and language skills. http://www.bollywhat.com/ Here is a website where you can buy Hindi movies with a written bilingual transcript of the movies. Being that on average most Hindi movies are about 3 hours, you will get 3 hours of audio visual dialogue with Hindi to English translation. You may find it to be a great way to painlessly soak up lots of vocabulary and language patterns while being entertained. They also have many other Hindi resources as well. http://myhinditeacher.com/module11.htm Edited by Sunny_ on 06 March 2008 at 5:10pm 9 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| anjamu Diglot Newbie United States Joined 6333 days ago 7 posts - 10 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Portuguese, French, Hindi Studies: Gujarati | Message 13 of 34 31 July 2007 at 2:48pm | IP Logged | ||
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There is also a Pimsleur Hindi course available here: http://www.pluralitylanguage.com/hindi/.
The US government runs a site called GLOSS which offers some Hindi exercises for intermediate to advanced learners here: http://gloss.lingnet.org/. I posted a thread recently in the language links section on this forum with a link to a webpage where I have posted many of my Hindi and Gujarati bookmarks, if you want to look over there. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| daristani Senior Member United States Joined 7145 days ago 752 posts - 1661 votes Studies: Uzbek | Message 14 of 34 31 July 2007 at 2:54pm | IP Logged | ||
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For Urdu, check out:
Spoken URDU, by Mohammad Abd-Al-Rahman Barker, H.J. Hamdani, K.M.S. Dihlavi and S. Rahman, in three volumes with accompanying tapes. This is available from Spoken Language Services, and also from AudioForum. If you look it up on Amazon, you'll see at least one very positive review of it. The course is similar to the FSI courses, but doesn't involve quite as much audio material as the major FSI courses. 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| xtremelingo Trilingual Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 6288 days ago 398 posts - 515 votes Speaks: English*, Hindi*, Punjabi* Studies: German, French, Arabic (Written) | Message 15 of 34 24 September 2007 at 4:20pm | IP Logged | ||
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Personally, I think Urdu's written form looks better than Arabic.
I can read both Arabic and Urdu, but I can only understand Urdu fluently however. To make this clear for some. Urdu is basically Hindi, but writen in the Perso-Arabic script. Hindi is Hindi written in the Devanagri script. There are only some slight differences in accent and a few words. If you know Punjabi, then basically these differences in Hindu/Urdu are harder to notice, as Punjabi also has elements from both langugaes which were not discarded for "political' reasons as Ardaschir outlined. Where I come from, we call the Urdu script "Shah-mukhi" which is really Punjabi written in Perso-Arabic (Urdu) script in the Pakistan side of Punjab. On the Indian (my) side of Punjab, Punjabi is written in Gur-Mukhi (the devanagri style script, slightly different though). However, I can read both scripts since my native religion, much of texts, poems and works were written in Perso-Arabic and re-written later to Gurmukhi for political reasons within the religion. So basically. Punjabi is a language that is often written in two scripts. Shah-mukhi (Urdu style) in Pakistan, and Gurmukhi (Hindi style) in India. Since the state of Punjab is divided into both countries. Punjabi is also the largest region that connects India and Pakistan and knowing Punjabi often helps significantly in the acquisition of fluent Urdu and Hindi. It also has better exposure in both countries, so if you travel in the North of India or Pakistan (which many Westeners do besides Goa and Mumbai), you can get very far just knowing Punjabi. Edited by xtremelingo on 10 October 2007 at 2:20am 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| sumabeast Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6927 days ago 212 posts - 220 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Written) | Message 16 of 34 25 September 2007 at 2:35pm | IP Logged | ||
Don't mean to argue, but I'd disagree with this. Urdu script just looks too cluttered with all the extra markings above and below the letters. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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