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| Captain Haddock Diglot Senior Member Japan kanjicabinet.tumblr. Joined 6769 days ago 2282 posts - 2814 votes  Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, Korean, Ancient Greek | Message 17 of 34 26 September 2007 at 3:06am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Perhaps Xtremelingo is referring to the sloping Nastaleeq style of writing Arabic, which is the preferred style for Urdu and merely calligraphic for the other languages that use the Arabic alphabet.
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| xtremelingo Trilingual Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 6288 days ago 398 posts - 515 votes Speaks: English*, Hindi*, Punjabi* Studies: German, French, Arabic (Written) | Message 18 of 34 02 October 2007 at 5:22pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Captain,
Yes, the sloping style of arabic. It is very calligraphic. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| HTale Bilingual Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6379 days ago 164 posts - 167 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Written)* Studies: French | Message 19 of 34 13 October 2007 at 12:42pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I think both look beautiful when in the hands of a calligrapher. Although, I find that the normal urdu script looks more exotic, and the Arabic one just looks 'plain' (much like the roman script to much of us). 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Karakorum Bilingual Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6570 days ago 201 posts - 232 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Written)* Studies: French, German | Message 20 of 34 13 October 2007 at 1:57pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Yeah, exactly. Printed Arabic just looks like plain writing, while Urdu has a more calligraphic style. I don't know how handwritten Urdu or Persian look like, but I do know that handwritten Arabic is often ugly. I blame prolific use of Riq'a. People who use Naskh end up writing very nicely and legibly, but I get the impression that people view Riq'a as the font for super busy adults who don't have time to waste on small things. So you just end up staring at one long line with a bunch of strokes trying figure out if it's supposed to be a word or a doodle of a boy holding an ice cream cone. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| mrhenrik Triglot Moderator Norway Joined 6080 days ago 482 posts - 658 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, French Personal Language Map | Message 22 of 34 30 July 2010 at 3:56am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I do realise this thread is older than all the hills, but I had to reply to this part
of Prof. Arguelles post:
I might be stumbling a bit here as I have no knowledge of grammatical terms, but I believe this sound is found in Norwegian as well - as the only European language. It occurs in "-rt-" parts of words; instead of pronouncing both of the letters individually, they're moulded together into a sound which is indeed made by touching the tip of your tongue to the top center of your mouth. Examples of words: Vert - host Ert - pea Svart - black Hardt - hard I've heard from before at least, that the only other "big" language (if one can use that word of Norwegian) using this sound is Hindi. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| lynxrunner Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States crittercryptics.com Joined 5923 days ago 361 posts - 461 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish*, French Studies: Russian, Swedish, Haitian Creole | Message 23 of 34 30 July 2010 at 4:41am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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The same thing occurs in Swedish, too! "rt" becomes a retroflex t and it happens for some
other r + consonant combinations as well. Does it help Swedish/Norwegian speakers with Hindi? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| sunny Groupie United States Joined 6249 days ago 98 posts - 128 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Russian, Welsh, French | Message 24 of 34 31 July 2010 at 4:39pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Thank you for this very enlightening post and subsequent conversation.
My daughter had been wanting to continue her study of Urdu, but we found very little material on the internet to do so. (We are not well financed and rely heavily on free resources.) Armed with the knowledge that there are sufficient materials for Hindi which will suffice, she can perhaps resume her studies with Hindi. Thank you. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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