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Cainntear
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Message 9 of 14

27 September 2009 at 5:05pm | IP Logged

rggg wrote:

Yes =) ..... it is not really an exception per se, but I think people learning Spanish might get a little confused, that's why I used these 2 examples:

Ana e Yves (Yves being a French name starting with an "i" sound)

Ella y yo ("yo" with a sound similar to the "j" sound in English)

Take care!!!

Except that there are plenty of Spanish-speakers who don't pronounce "yo" with a "J" sound, and they still write "y yo".
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27 September 2009 at 5:20pm | IP Logged

Cainntear wrote:

Except that there are plenty of Spanish-speakers who don't pronounce "yo" with a "J" sound, and they still write "y yo".

It does not matter if they pronounce it jo or io, they certainly do not pronounce it "í-o": no pure i sound, so no clash between 2 i sounds. Hencke had already made that clear!
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Message 11 of 14

05 October 2009 at 5:19pm | IP Logged

"e" is used with words starting with "hi" or "hie"

for example.

Hijo e hielo. (Son and Ice)

:)

hope it helps
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Message 12 of 14

05 October 2009 at 5:48pm | IP Logged

datsunking1 wrote:

"e" is used with words starting with "hi" or "hie"

for example.

Hijo e hielo. (Son and Ice)

rggg's already said that diphthongs don't count, so "e hijo" is correct, but it's "y hielo". This is because the "i" here is not a full, clear vowel.

If you want to check for yourself, check out http://www.corpusdelespanol.org, where you can input a word or phrase in Spanish and see examples of it taken from real use. If you search for "y hielo" you'll get 13 results and if you search for "*e hielo" you'll get none. You'll get similar results with searches like "y hierba" and "y hiel".
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Message 13 of 14

08 October 2009 at 5:24pm | IP Logged

wow my grammar book is wrong... lol

Thanks for that correction!!
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