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sebngwa3
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10 October 2009 at 11:26pm | IP Logged 
I don't know when to use "has/have had." I don't think there is a Korean correspondence to this, no?
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10 October 2009 at 11:33pm | IP Logged 
This is from BBC:

We use the present perfect tense when we want to connect the present with the (recent) past in some way and this will appear as has had or have had in full forms or as 's had or 've had in contracted forms:

Have they had their breakfast yet? ~ They've had a glass of orange juice, but they haven't had anything to eat yet.

He was in a foul mood when he got back, but now that he's had a shower and a snooze, he's calmed down a bit.

Have you had a nice evening, Barbara? ~ I've had a rotten evening. I had an argument with Tom and I've had enough for one day.


Sorry, I don't speak Korean, so I don't know if there's a corresponding structure in your language.

Take care!!
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ikinaridango
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11 October 2009 at 6:20pm | IP Logged 
The distinction between when to use the preterite (ate, watched) versus the present perfect (has eaten, has watched) is tricky and you might want to consult a grammar to be certain. Here's one way of looking at it:

At ten in the morning I might ask my brother "Have you eaten your breakfast yet?" It's still the morning, so "have" is the correct form.

In the afternoon, I might ask my brother "Did you eat breakfast this morning?" The morning is over, so the connection to the past is broken, and "did" is the correct way of forming the past tense.


A few more examples:
I've seen the new Brad Pitt film.
I saw the most recent Brad Pitt film last week.

I've eaten American food.
I ate American food when I was in New York last year.

I've never gone to bed early.
John went to bed early last night.

I hope you find this helpful! There are other permutations, though I might add that I did notice, when I was in America earlier this year, that people would often say things like "Did you eat breakfast yet?" at 10 in the morning. I'm not sure if that is officially considered gramatically correct in America, but certainly in colloquial speech there the distinction between the two tenses seems less important.

Edited to add: I'm afraid I don't speak any Korean so I don't know whether there are any equivalent structures.

Edited by ikinaridango on 11 October 2009 at 6:25pm



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