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Dylanarama Newbie United States Joined 5440 days ago 30 posts - 31 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 1 of 12 20 February 2012 at 5:26pm | IP Logged |
So I have heard for a while that the Danish taught in Iceland schools is changed a little to be closer to all of the other Scandinavian languages. I also heard that they call it Scandinavian. Is this true? What are the differences, is it only in spoken or written as well? Is learning this type of Danish helpful to Icelanders when going to Scandinavian countries?
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| Ellsworth Senior Member United States Joined 4958 days ago 345 posts - 528 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Swedish, Finnish, Icelandic, Irish
| Message 2 of 12 20 February 2012 at 5:38pm | IP Logged |
Well I have heard said that written Danish is very similar to Norwegian and that the main
difference is in pronunciation(hot potato in the mouth lol).
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| tractor Tetraglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5454 days ago 1349 posts - 2292 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, Catalan Studies: French, German, Latin
| Message 3 of 12 20 February 2012 at 7:20pm | IP Logged |
Dylanarama wrote:
So I have heard for a while that the Danish taught in Iceland schools is changed a little to be
closer to all of the other Scandinavian languages. I also heard that they call it Scandinavian. Is this true? What are the
differences, is it only in spoken or written as well? Is learning this type of Danish helpful to Icelanders when going to
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I don't think they change their Danish deliberately in order to make it closer to Swedish and Norwegian. I think it's
just a result of Icelandic phonology being a little bit closer to Swedish and Norwegian than to Danish. Danish spoken
by Icelanders often sounds like Norwegian (with a little bit of an accent) to my Norwegian ears.
Edited by tractor on 21 February 2012 at 12:13am
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Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6704 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map
| Message 5 of 12 21 February 2012 at 10:52am | IP Logged |
It is not a surprise than Danish spoken in Iceland has a slightly Norwegian ring to it. After all Old Norse divided into Icelandic and Old Norwegian one one side and Old Danish and Old Swedish on the other side. This old division line has since been obfuscated due to historical events (where Norway and Denmark formed one nation which was in almost constant war with Sweden), but taken on a purely phonological level Icelandic is still as close to Norwegian as it is to Danish. But I wouldn't go so far as to say that the result sounds like Norwegian. If you know Icelandic you can still hear where the accent comes from.
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| KimG Diglot Groupie Norway Joined 4978 days ago 88 posts - 104 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English Studies: Portuguese, Swahili
| Message 6 of 12 21 February 2012 at 2:18pm | IP Logged |
Icelandic phonology is perhaps closer to norwegian than Danish, while the grammar is close to gibberish for any Norwegian or Dane without study. The biggest differences is Icelandic is perhaps closer to Norse than modern Norwegian phonology, preserving some sounds as hr, who's I think, sounding as German ch, and among other sounds, the difhtongs in Icelandic was also preserved somewhat simmiliar in Norwegian, while Danish lost theirs.
I think Icelanders learning Norwegian got the best accent of any non native speakers I could think off, perhaps only people from the former Jugoslavia can in some cases rival the accent of the Icelanders I've met.
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| Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4669 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali
| Message 7 of 12 27 February 2012 at 12:51am | IP Logged |
But I think Swedish people can master tones better.
There are no tones in Icelandic. In Europe, only Norwegian, Swedish, Slovenian, Bosnian, Croatian, Serbian and Montenegrin have tones/pitch accent.
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| KimG Diglot Groupie Norway Joined 4978 days ago 88 posts - 104 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English Studies: Portuguese, Swahili
| Message 8 of 12 28 February 2012 at 5:35pm | IP Logged |
Medulin wrote:
But I think Swedish people can master tones better.
There are no tones in Icelandic. In Europe, only Norwegian, Swedish, Slovenian, Bosnian, Croatian, Serbian and Montenegrin have tones/pitch accent. |
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Could be Swedes master the ex Yugoslavian tone/piches better than Norwegians, but they don't speak the Norwegian ones well if they try, and I have seen quite many attempts of sounding more Norwegian by other scandinavian. As easy to hear their accent as for Danes. The differences between Icelandic and the other Scandinavian languages is to their advantage, imho, Swedes often just ruin their native language by messing up their native language to adapt to Norwegian. Same thing happen to Norwegians who move to Sweden permanently.
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