zerothinking Senior Member Australia Joined 6378 days ago 528 posts - 772 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 9 of 24 10 July 2009 at 7:12pm | IP Logged |
You have to review. There is no way around it unless you have savant abilities or you are
the exception to the rule. The brain simply doesn't learn that many things to longterm
memory in one sitting. You have to review and review and review. Each time you do the
connection are made stronger until such time as it'd take longer than your lifespan for
them to fade.
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Carisma Diglot Senior Member Argentina Joined 5628 days ago 104 posts - 161 votes Speaks: Spanish*, EnglishC1 Studies: Italian, Mandarin
| Message 10 of 24 11 July 2009 at 7:52pm | IP Logged |
I use flashcards. I make them myself. Light green for nouns, pink for verbs and
conjugations, red for idioms and phrases. I just get them every time I have time and say
them out loud, guess their meanings and review, review and review. It does work for me.
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Rhoda Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5606 days ago 166 posts - 196 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Latin, Swahili, Ancient Greek, German
| Message 11 of 24 26 July 2009 at 9:07pm | IP Logged |
Learning French at school, I don't think we ever had to memorize more than around 50 new vocab words for a quiz--of course, after 15 years of study, all the new vocab really adds up. I find the best way for me to make it stick though, is lots and lots of reading (with a dictionary if necessary) since seeing the words used in proper context helps me remember. Or if I am still a beginner at a language (as with Swahili) and most books/articles/etc. are too advanced, I write my own sentences using the new vocab. Stuff like "Harry Potter alinunua ufagio" (Harry bought a broom), which I tend to remember best.
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Raincrowlee Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 6708 days ago 621 posts - 808 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin, Korean, French Studies: Indonesian, Japanese
| Message 12 of 24 26 July 2009 at 10:27pm | IP Logged |
Matgen Ethaniel wrote:
I must admit, I at times am an impatient guy. I don't always like learning words bit by bit, here and there, oftentimes i prefer remembering a whole lot of words all at once. I try memorizing about 100-150 words in an hour to about an hour and a half and 60 kanji at that same time. I was wondering if anyone else uses this method, or if not, what method do you use |
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The biggest problem with memorizing all those words at once is being able to retain them. I've been able to memorize at the same rate (100-150 in an hour and a half), but after a couple days it sort of fades out. Unless you figure out a way to review, then you'll be having a hard time advancing.
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J-Learner Senior Member Australia Joined 6036 days ago 556 posts - 636 votes Studies: Yiddish, English* Studies: Dutch
| Message 13 of 24 09 August 2009 at 6:18am | IP Logged |
I can go through a course and keep up with the introduced vocabulary without purposefully memorizing it. So I don't have any method.
If I wanted to memorize a few thousands words over a couple of weeks I would probably use Iversen's method.
My problem isn't vocabulary....actually I don't have a problem except for persistence...
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Matgen Ethaniel Pentaglot Newbie United States Joined 5625 days ago 7 posts - 7 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Mandarin, Japanese, French Studies: German
| Message 14 of 24 09 August 2009 at 6:55am | IP Logged |
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The biggest problem with memorizing all those words at once is being able to retain them. I've been able to memorize at the same rate (100-150 in an hour and a half), but after a couple days it sort of fades out. Unless you figure out a way to review, then you'll be having a hard time advancing. |
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to be honest, I retain most of the words that i have learned on the first go (though sometimes i do require a few minutes to go over those that I forgot), it isn't that difficult for me to retain them, and if i forgot some of them, i just simply go over the ones i forgot a minute or too, and then i do fine. this method works well for me because i went from knowing 100 kanji in january of 2009 to knowing about 1200-1300 as of august, (which is now of course), and to be perfectly honest, there wasn't much studying in between, just on certain days i would do my 100-150 word practicing)I know people often find it hard to believe, but it really does work that way with me, it is interesting to see that i am not the only one who has done this
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ennime Tetraglot Senior Member South Africa universityofbrokengl Joined 5910 days ago 397 posts - 507 votes Speaks: English, Dutch*, Esperanto, Afrikaans Studies: Xhosa, French, Korean, Portuguese, Zulu
| Message 15 of 24 17 August 2009 at 4:06am | IP Logged |
Learning vocabulary is probably the bane of my existence... it's the thing I have them
most problems with when learning any language
I did find that Michel Thomas methods work in a way that any other haven't yet. So I tend
to do the "associating" and the not stressing and spaced repetition.
I do am a very "visual" learner, when stamping words into my head I need to visualize
them written before me to be able to recall them...
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Gray Parrot Diglot Groupie United Kingdom Joined 5602 days ago 41 posts - 44 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin Studies: Portuguese
| Message 16 of 24 19 August 2009 at 11:56am | IP Logged |
Matgen Ethaniel wrote:
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The biggest problem with memorizing all those words at once is being able
to retain them. I've been able to memorize at the same rate (100-150 in an hour and a half), but after a couple
days it sort of fades out. Unless you figure out a way to review, then you'll be having a hard time advancing.
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to be honest, I retain most of the words that i have learned on the first go (though sometimes i do require a few
minutes to go over those that I forgot), it isn't that difficult for me to retain them, and if i forgot some of them, i
just simply go over the ones i forgot a minute or too, and then i do fine. this method works well for me because
i went from knowing 100 kanji in january of 2009 to knowing about 1200-1300 as of august, (which is now of
course), and to be perfectly honest, there wasn't much studying in between, just on certain days i would do my
100-150 word practicing)I know people often find it hard to believe, but it really does work that way with me, it
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Could you explain in more detail the method you use to memorize?
Do you repeat out loud each one a hundred times?
Do you write it out again & again?
Do you just look and remember?
Do you use mnemonics?
Do you use a word key system?
Do you use pictures?
Or any other method?
I'm very interested in how you (everybody here) memorize, because this one word by itself can mean many
things to many people.
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