Matgen Ethaniel Pentaglot Newbie United States Joined 5625 days ago 7 posts - 7 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Mandarin, Japanese, French Studies: German
| Message 17 of 24 19 August 2009 at 6:54pm | IP Logged |
no, i do not repeat the word out loud one hundred times. i don't write it out again and again. I usually do look at it and can remember. mnemonics often help. no word key system. it is pretty much just look and remember and if i forget something go back and look at it again, after about two or three times of looking at the forgotten word it stays in my mind
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Josh Traceur Newbie Australia Joined 5614 days ago 5 posts - 5 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Turkish, Mandarin, Korean, French
| Message 18 of 24 20 August 2009 at 2:36pm | IP Logged |
I have an odd way to remember words. I try to think of something ridiculous that I can relate back to the word. I can't think of an example right now so I will make this up. (Pathetic Example I know, but it can work really well for some things if you let your mind run wild) in French, the word for Morning is Martin, so I immediately think of Martin from the simpsons. He is a nerd, and whats the first thing nerds think about when they wake up? They want to be at school first thing in the morning. This also works for things like Chinese text, whats the first thing you think of when you see the character, and try to relate it back to the meaning. When I was learning the Korean script, I had this idea that it would be extremely hard, the first character I leaned was ㅓ"o" I thought to my self, "Oh, that's easy!"
I really wish I had some good examples cause I'm embarrassed about those ones.
Oh, also, Palm cards are brilliant! Not so much for grammar and things, but for vocab, learning scrips and for Chinese words.
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Gray Parrot Diglot Groupie United Kingdom Joined 5602 days ago 41 posts - 44 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin Studies: Portuguese
| Message 19 of 24 21 August 2009 at 11:29am | IP Logged |
I think bizarre stories can help fix things in the memory pretty well.
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Josh Traceur Newbie Australia Joined 5614 days ago 5 posts - 5 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Turkish, Mandarin, Korean, French
| Message 20 of 24 21 August 2009 at 4:16pm | IP Logged |
Gray Parrot wrote:
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Great! I'm glad you understood me!
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Sunja Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6091 days ago 2020 posts - 2295 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English*, German Studies: French, Mandarin
| Message 21 of 24 21 August 2009 at 5:59pm | IP Logged |
It's great to have words where you can build a story. 天道虫 To use Heisig's meanings, I think that'd be "heaven", "road", "insect" -- for ladybug. Nice memory aid there! (of course remembering how to sound it out takes a bit more work.)
Ever had the problem where the meaning of the word conflicts with the memory aid?
I always have trouble remembering kanji for abstract concepts.
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TheBiscuit Tetraglot Senior Member Mexico Joined 5929 days ago 532 posts - 619 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Italian Studies: German, Croatian
| Message 22 of 24 23 August 2009 at 6:06am | IP Logged |
Having synaesthesia is helpful for memorising. I like the substitute word method too. I think the trick is not to try too hard. I find if I try too hard to memorise I'm interfering with the process - as strange as that may sound.
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momtomany Newbie Canada Joined 6345 days ago 18 posts - 19 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, Dutch, German
| Message 23 of 24 27 August 2009 at 9:45pm | IP Logged |
I've been using Anki (a spaced repetition flashcard program available for free download on the internet).... you
can set it for however many new words you want per day. I've got it set at 50 right now but I am a busy Mom
and any more than that and the reviews start adding up past 300/day.... but I'm sure someone with more time
available could do more than 50 if they wanted to. The program is really effective at making sure the words
stick for good. There are a few premade vocabulary sets you can download (good for getting started perhaps),
but it's better I think to use words and phrases you find yourself from your reading... then they will mean
more to your brain and I think you'll learn those words better. I used to use paper flashcards, but this
program is great and way way easier to use and manage than those paper flashcards (and your two-year old
can't get into your flashcard stack and mess the whole thing up!)
Yeah, I've noticed that phenomenon that "TheBiscuit" is talking about.... if I''m 'trying' too hard then I miss a
lot more of the words, but if I'm in a really relaxed 'zoned out' sort of mood, then the answers just come to
me out of somewhere and I feel surprised sometimes that I knew the answer.
Anki is the Japanese word for memory or something..... the program also supports Japanese and/or Chinese
writing (I just remember reading that, but I don't know much about other alphabets or kanji or whatever... I
just remember it mentioned several scripts it supports). Check it out! I really love it, and I find it very
efficient and effective.
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Metamucil Groupie United States Joined 5881 days ago 43 posts - 51 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German
| Message 24 of 24 27 August 2009 at 11:37pm | IP Logged |
ennime wrote:
Learning vocabulary is probably the bane of my existence... it's the thing I have them
most problems with when learning any language
I did find that Michel Thomas methods work in a way that any other haven't yet. So I tend
to do the "associating" and the not stressing and spaced repetition.
I do am a very "visual" learner, when stamping words into my head I need to visualize
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I too am a visual learner, it always helps to see a word. If I just hear a new word it's difficult for me to really memorize it until I see it on paper or in my mind.
that's why I always write down every new word I learn and then refere back to it several times. This is how it sticks in my memory, we tend to learn best in small amounts over time instead of one big cramming session. I have pages and pages of words listed and by going back and re-reading I can keep them fresh in my mind.
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